Editing Cauldron


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See also [[Tool, Eating]] .

=Illustrations:= 
==<span style="line-height: 1.5;">Period:</span>== 
{|
| https://oscar.sca.org/cImages/520/2012-07-13/14-41-21_Cauldrons.jpg 
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| Heraldic Cauldrons from OSCAR
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===Calderas Gringoladas (snake handles):=== 
http://coblaith.net/Heraldry/Regional/Calderas/default.html
{|
| http://coblaith.net/Heraldry/Regional/Calderas/caldera1.jpg 
| http://coblaith.net/Heraldry/Regional/Calderas/caldera2.jpg 
| http://coblaith.net/Heraldry/Regional/Calderas/caldera3.jpg
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| BSB 290, Armas de los Condes, f52r, caldera gringolada
| BSB 290, Armas de los Condes, p57r, caldera gringolada
| BSB 290, Armas de los Condes, f97r, caldera gringolada
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|[[File:LivroArmeiro_f084_PachecoChefe_OrOr.jpg|Livro]]
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|Livro do Armeiro Mor, Portugal, 1506-09, Pacheco Chefe, Or on Or caldeiras gringoladas
|}

==Modern:== 
===[[@http://mistholme.com/dictionary/pot-cauldron/|Pictorial Dictionary of SCA Heraldry (3rd edition): Pot, Cauldron]]=== 
{|
|http://mistholme.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/pot_posnet-263x300.jpg
|http://mistholme.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/pot_cauldron-259x300.jpg
|http://mistholme.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/pot_threefooted-259x300.jpg 
|http://mistholme.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/pot_spouted-260x300.jpg 
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| A fleshpot (period)
| A cauldron (period)
| Three-footed pot (period)
| Spouted pot (period)
|-
|http://mistholme.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/pot_kettle-261x300.jpg
|http://mistholme.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/pot_pipkin-264x300.jpg
|http://mistholme.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/pot_clay-258x300.jpg
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| Pipkin (accepted)
| Clay pot (accepted)
| Kettle (accepted)
|-
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|See also
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|* ''[[http://mistholme.com/dictionary/bowl/|Bowl]] </span>//<span style="background-color: #edf6fe; color: #333333; font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">see also <span style="color: #123b66; font-family: inherit; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">[[@http://mistholme.com/dictionary/brazier/|brazier]]</span>, <span style="color: #123b66; font-family: inherit; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">[[@http://mistholme.com/dictionary/cup/|cup]]</span>, <span style="color: #123b66; font-family: inherit; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">[[@http:''mistholme.com/dictionary/lamp/|lamp]]</span></span></span>
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|* [[http:''mistholme.com/dictionary/pot-cauldron/|Pot; Cauldron]] see also '''[[@http://mistholme.com/dictionary/amphora/|amphora]], [[@http://mistholme.com/dictionary/frying-pan/|frying pan]]</span>, [[@http://mistholme.com/dictionary/ink-bottle/|ink bottle (ink pot)]], [[@http://mistholme.com/dictionary/pitcher-ewer/|pitcher]], [[@http://mistholme.com/dictionary/vase/|vase (urn)]] '''and also [[@http:''mistholme.com/dictionary/cat/|cat (in its curiosity)]].
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|''' [[http://mistholme.com/dictionary/caldera-gringolada/|Caldera gringolada]]
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===[[none|Pennsic Traceable Art Project: none]].===

=Precedents:= 
Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html]]
Morsulus Heralds Website - [[http://www.morsulus.org/]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents)
Restatement Wiki - [[http://yehudaheraldry.com/restatement/index.php?title=Main_Page]] (restatements of Precedents)
'''''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.'''''

==<u>'''Definition:'''</u>== 

===August 2015 - defining instance caldera gringolada:=== 
[[#153]]Selene Colfox. Badge. (Fieldless) A caldera gringolada barry sable and Or, the serpents Or.
This is the defining instance of a caldera gringolada in SCA armory. This charge is a uniquely Iberian charge, and can be seen on f.52r of the 16th century armorial BSB-Hss Cod.icon. 290, Armas de los Condes, Vescondes etc. de Cataluña, de Castilla, de Portugal (found at http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/bsb00001370/image_119). It appears to be a later stylized version of an ordinary cauldron with snake heads extending from each end of the handle or from the pot and typically barry or checky tincturing as the main distinguishing features.
http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/08/15-08lar.html#153

==='''Nov 2013 - types of pots:'''=== 
<span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #222222; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From Wreath: Blazoning Fun -- Kitchen Pots and Pans</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #222222; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Turning now to the subject of kitchen wares, a submission this month required us to look more closely at cauldrons and similar pots. In period armorials, the cauldron is the most common cooking pot type of charge. It is typically depicted without legs, although occasionally with three legs, but always with a transverse bail handle (a single arched handle). Another cooking pot found in period armory is the so-called flesh-pot, a similarly shaped pot with three legs and two rounded or angular handles at the rim.</span>

<span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #222222; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">We have received several submissions in the recent past that resemble a cauldron, only without the bail handle. As we have not yet found this depiction of a pot in period armory, we must turn to period artifacts to see if it is attested and thus registerable. A quick perusal of period woodcuts and paintings showing kitchen equipment shows that most cooking pots were cauldrons, with or without feet, either hanging from the bail handle or set directly into the fire.</span>

<span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #222222; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">As for pots without the transverse bail handle, Saint Vitus is commonly depicted with a pot, or in a pot, as a reference to his manner of death. Most typically this is a three-legged pot with handles, or a flesh-pot (</span><span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #1155cc; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">[[@http:''en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flein-st-veit.jpg]]</span><span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #222222; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">). One period woodcut showed several cauldrons, with three legs, bail handles, and lids, set next to an identically-shaped pot with three legs but no obvious handle (</span><span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #1155cc; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">[[@http://godecookery.com/afeast/kitchens/kit007.html]]</span><span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #222222; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">). Band 13 of the manuscripts of the Baden State Library in Karlsruhe (URN: urn:nbn:de:bsz:31-8660), on page 175 (</span><span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #1155cc; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">[[@http:''digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/blbihd/content/pageview/93912]]</span><span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #222222; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">) has a figure drawn in the margin of a mid-12th Century fragment of someone retrieving food from a three-legged pot with no visible handles.</span>

<span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #222222; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">As all three forms of cooking pot are attested in period, all are registerable in armory. We will henceforth blazon pots with transverse bail handles, regardless of legs, as <u>_cauldrons___. Pots with no bail handle, but with obvious handles at the rim, we will blazon as ___flesh-pots___. Pots without handles but with legs will be blazoned ___three-legged pots_</u>. Pots with no handles or legs will be send back for redraw, unless evidence is presented of that form of cooking pot in period. '''There is no difference between any form of cooking po'''t.</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/11/12-11cl.html]]</span>

==<u>'''Registerability:'''</u>== 
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)</span>

==<u>'''Conflict:'''</u>== 

===June 2013 - cauldron vs caldera gringolada:=== 
[[#156]]'''Selene Colfox.''' Badge. (Fieldless) A caldera gringolada Or...
Commenters discussed whether or not this charge conflicts with an ordinary cauldron. Although the charge appears to be treated as distinct from a cauldron in Iberian armory, this was not obviously the case in the 16th century Italian armorial BSB Cod.icon.267, ''Insignia pontificum Romanorum et cardinalium II. Insignia ab Urbano VI ad Robertum de Nobilibus cardinalem//. In that source, depictions of the arms of Spanish bishops show the caldera gringolada with distinct snake heads (f.370r, http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/bsb00001415/image_751), a faint "fringe" of snake heads (f.299r, http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/bsb00001415/image_609), and no snake heads (f.329r, http:''daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/bsb00001415/image_669). We must therefore treat the snake heads as a blazonable but maintained element. While caldera gringolada are typically barry or checky, we do not define charges in SCA heraldry based on tincture, and we would certainly allow an ordinary cauldron to be barry or checky, or a caldera gringolada to be a single tincture. Therefore, a caldera gringolada is not considered different from a cauldron for purposes of conflict. Due to their shape and tendency to be barry or checky, they may also conflict with round woven baskets.
This badge is returned for conflict with the badge of Aurelie de Montpellier, ''(Fieldless) A cauldron Or''. There is a DC for fieldlessness, but nothing for the difference between a cauldron and a caldera gringolada.
http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2013/06/13-06lar.html#156

==<u>'''Identifiability:'''</u>== 


=='''<u>Collected Precedents:</u>'''== 
2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - [[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory2.html|Collected Armory Precedents]]
1<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">st Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008)</span><span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;"> - na</span>
The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - na
The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - <span style="color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/shauna/armory.html|Collected Armory Precedents]]</span>
The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - <span style="color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/francois/wreath.html|Collected Armory Precedents]]</span>
The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - <span style="color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elsbeth/armory.html|Collected Armory Precedents]]</span>
The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - <span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #006600; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/jaeprec.html|Single HTML Document]]</span>
The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) '''-'''
* <span style="color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/volume3.html|the 1st part]]</span> (Nov 1993 - June 1994) and
* <span style="color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/daudIITOC.html|the 2nd part]]</span> (July 1994 - June 1996)
The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - <span style="color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/bruce/|Collected precedents]]</span>
The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -
* <span style="color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1toc.html|the 1st year]]</span> (June 1990 - June 1991) and
* <span style="color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1btoc.html|the 2nd year]]</span> (July 1991 - June 1992)
The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - <span style="color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/alisoun/AMETOP.html|Collected Precedents]]</span>
The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - <span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #006600; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/baldwin.html|Single HTML Document]]</span>
The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - <span style="color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/wilhelm/volume3.html|Collected Precedents]]</span>
The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - <span style="color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/karina/volume2.html|Collected Precedents]]</span>
The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - <span style="color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/early/volume1.html|Collected Precedents]]</span>

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===<u>'''In the [[scaheraldry/Ordinary|Ordinary]]'''</u>:=== 
(includes bowl, cooking pot, pot)
* [[http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_desc.cgi?p=CAULDRON%20AND%20COOKING%20POT|Cauldron]]

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