Editing Saltire, Per Saltire, In Saltire


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=Illustrations:= 
==Period source/s:==
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| https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10561671_10204708436085174_7666224630010275525_n.jpg?oh=88e923ee145c89d2332f708505080559&oe=55DE845B  
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| Siebmacher, 1605, plate 33, Unverzagt, per saltire with four charges. FB image courtesy of Bruce Draconarius. "Per saltire Or and sable, in pale two lion's faces sable and in fess two fleurs-de-lys argent."
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===Unlike Objects in saltire===
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| http://www.sofyalarus.info/heraldicart/ArlbergBroStChristopher_axe_brewers_scoop.jpg
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| Arlberg Brotherhood of St. Christopher (Virgil Raber), 1548, axe and brewer's scoop. Image courtesy of Bruce Draconarius
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==Modern==
'''Pictorial Dictionary of SCA Heraldry (3rd edition):'''
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* <span style="font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;">''<span style="background-color: #edf6fe; color: #123b66; font-family: inherit; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">[[http://mistholme.com/dictionary/saltire/|Saltire]]</span>''</span>
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<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Brickbat's Armorial Stash - [[http://atensubmissions.nexiliscom.com/HeraldicArtBits.shtml]]:</span>

<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[scaheraldry/Pennsic Traceable Art Project|Pennsic Traceable Art Project]]</span>

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===<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Sources:]]Sources:</span>=== 
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - [[http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/]]</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Archive of St. Gabriel reports - [[http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/archive.cgi]]</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Laurel Armory Articles - [[http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/armory_articles.html]]</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[scaheraldry/Period Armorials|Period Armorials]]</span>

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===<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:]]Precedents:</span>=== 
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html]]</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Morsulus Heralds Website - [[http://www.morsulus.org/]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents)</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Restatement Wiki - [[http://yehudaheraldry.com/restatement/index.php?title=Main_Page]] (restatements of Precedents)</span>
''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">'''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.'''</span>''

====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Definition:]]<u>'''Definition:'''</u></span>==== 

'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">From the June 2013 Cover Letter:</span>'''
<span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: 'Times New Roman';">'''From Wreath: Handling Pairs and Sheaves in Arrangements'''</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Commenters were asked to discuss how best to handle sheaves or pairs of charges combined with other charges in the same charge group. SENA A3D2c requires charges in a group to be in identical postures/orientations or in an arrangement that includes posture/orientation. It also states, "A charge group in which postures for different charges must be blazoned individually will not be allowed without period examples of that combination of postures." Precedent has said, "The charges here do not have comparable postures or orientations, but they also are not in a unified standard arrangement, as the two chisels in saltire must be blazoned separately from the crab in order to adequately describe their positioning. [William the Myllwright, R-Atenveldt, Dec 2012 LoAR]" However, does this precedent follow period practice? Commenters dug through many different armorials across all of Europe to find out.</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Most cases of pairs of charges have a single pair of identical charges in saltire as the sole primary charge group. There were also examples of multiple pairs of identical charges in the same charge group. More uncommon were examples of non-identical charges in saltire, most typically a key or a sword and another charge, as they tended to be ecclesiastically related. There were no examples found of multiple pairs of non-identical charges in the same charge group.</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">For an example of multiple pairs of charges in the same design, the arms of the Worshipful Company of Fishmongers, granted in 1512, are Azure, three dolphins naiant embowed in pale argent finned toothed and crowned Or between two pairs of stockfish in saltire argent over the mouth of each fish a crown Or, on a chief gules three pairs of keys of St Peter in saltire.</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Most cases of a sheaf of charges were sheaves of arrows. There were other examples of three identical charges arranged in a sheaf, and a few example of two charges in saltire surmounted by a different charge palewise, again typically ecclesiastical in nature, such as two keys in saltire surmounted by a crozier. Again, the vast majority of examples were of a single sheaf as the sole primary charge group.</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">For an example of multiple sheaves of charges in the same design, the arms of Nicholas Robinson, Bishop of Bangor from 1566-1585, are given by Parker as Azure, a chevron between three sheaves of arrows argent.</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">It is tempting to consider a sheaf of charges as a single charge, but it is not: it has long been considered as heraldic shorthand for two charges in saltire surmounted by a third charge palewise, and the charges that make up the sheaf are counted individually for purposes of differencing by number. Likewise, while it is tempting to consider a pair of charges in saltire as a single charge, it is not; it is clearly two separate charges arranged in saltire. However, SENA A3D2c does not concern counting charges, merely their placement upon the field in a period arrangement.</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Given the period examples, we are overturning past precedent forbidding the combination of a charge and two other charges in saltire, or other similar combinations. We will henceforth treat a pair of charges in saltire and a sheaf of charges as a single unit only for purposes of arrangement under SENA A3D2c. As always, the entire charge group must be in a blazonable period arrangement, such as two and one, in fess, in cross, etc.</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2013/06/13-06cl.html]]</span>

====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Registerability:]]<u>'''Registerability:'''</u></span>==== 
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)</span>

====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Conflict:]]<u>'''Conflict:'''</u></span>==== 


====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Identifiability:]]<u>'''Identifiability:'''</u></span>==== 


====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Collected Precedents:]]'''<u>Collected Precedents:</u>'''</span>==== 
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008)</span>'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;"> - </span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#SALTIRE|SALTIRE]]</span>
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) -</span>'''


===The [[scaheraldry/Ordinary|Ordinary ]]:=== 
* [[http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_desc.cgi?p=SALTIRE%2a9|Saltire - As charge]]
* [[http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_desc.cgi?p=SALTIRE%3aplain%20line%3auncharged|Saltire - Throughout - Uncharged - Plain line]]
* [[http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_desc.cgi?p=SALTIRE%3acomplex%20line%3auncharged|Saltire - Throughout - Uncharged - Complex line]]
* [[http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_desc.cgi?p=SALTIRE%3aplain%20line%3acharged|Saltire - Throughout - Charged - Plain line]]
* [[http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_desc.cgi?p=SALTIRE%3acomplex%20line%3acharged|Saltire - Throughout - Charged - Complex line]]
* Saltorel - see [[http://oanda.sca.org/ordinary/S.html#saltire|Saltire]]

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