Editing Amalia Andrijeva doch’ Mihajlo Lesniak

St. Gabriel Report that touches on Czech names - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/3244.txt

=Amalia=
==Amalia, German==
Amalia is a feminine given name found in the German language book Copia Schreibens an das ... Churf{u:}rstl. Collegium von ... Amalia Elisabetha Landgr{a:}fin zu Hessen, published 1640 (https://books.google.com/books?id=ID5FAAAAcAAJ).

*Also FamilySearch records-Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898:

**AMALIA MILNNER, CHRISTENING 05 April 1580 Boxberg, Baden, Germany Batch: C93174-1 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NC8F-468

**AMALIA BOTT, CHRISTENING 17 Oct 1577 EVANGELISCH, CALMBACH, SCHWARZWALDKREIS, WUERTTEMBERG Batch: C05006-4 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NCSN-VFX

==Amiliia==
Amiliia - expected Russian femininization of Amilii, apostle from Bukharev's Zhitiia vsekh sviatykh.  [Lives of all Saints], thus in the Russian Saints names pool.

Pattern:
*Afanasii/Afanasiia, Amplii/Ampliia, Iulii/Iuliia, etc. etc.

=Andriejeva=
==Andrijeva feminized Andrijev, 1527 Vienac==
Andrijeva is a feminized byname found in Vienac (Vijenac). Zabavi i pouci. Izdaje (https://books.google.com/books?id=9sKPme_xXwsC&pg=PA325), p. 325. This is a modern source discussing people from 1527. It is derived from the patronymic byname Andrijev, itself derived from the given name Andrij. (The consulting herald is not sure exactly in which Slavic language this book is written.)

Where/what is Vienac?
Vienac means "wreath", venets in Russian.  It was 19th century Croatian literary magazine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijenac

So, it's Croatian, i.e. South Slavic

===Andrii, alternately Andrij, as Russian===
*Andrii Val'ner, 16th century.  Luka Andriev Zykov, 1602. - Wickenden 3rd edition, s.n. Andrei.
**Андрий - Andrij = International Phonetic transliteration, Andrij/Andriy/Andrii = period Polish transliteration
**Андриева - Andrievа = International Phonetic transliteration, Andrievа/Andrjvа (?) = period Polish transliteration
**period Polish transliteration from Appendix A: Russian Feminine Names on the Western Borderlands in Wickenden 3rd Edition.

=doch' =
Russian patronymic particle found in Wickenden. Assistance documenting the correct particle is appreciated.

=Mihajlo=
==Mihajlo is a variant of the Serbian Mihailo==
Found in the 1621 Zarcalo dvhovno od pocetka, i sfarhe xivota coviecanskoga Razdieglieno, i ... By Mauro Orbini
(https://books.google.com/books?id=OZhoAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA7), p. 7.

Serbian is South Slavic.

==Mikhailo as Russian==
*Mikhailo Ivanovich' Viazem'skii, 1386, sn Mikhail,  Wickenden 3rd Ed.
*Михаило - no "j" option for this in International Phonetic transliteration, nor in period Polish (could have Mikhaylo)

*Unmarked patronymics are allowed in Russian per precedent [Maria Kotok, I believe].  
*Mikhailova would be the standard patronymic form.  
*Mikhaila (simple genitive case) is also an option.

=Lesniak=
A Russian or Belorussian occupational byname meaning "woodsman, forester" or "person living in a thicket" (see notes from ffride wlffsdotter in the attached documentation). 

Assistance documenting the unmarked form (without a suffix) is appreciated.

==Lesnikov, Russian==
Russian patronymic-form occupational byname, header in Wickenden, Vasko Lesnikov, c.1495. 

*As noted above with Mikhailo, unmarked patronymics are allowed in Russian by precedent.
*So Lesnik would be plausible.  As would Lesnika (simple genetive)

Лясняк, Лесняк alternative undated spellings found in Dal's dictionary.  
Sreznevskii?

==Le{s'}nikowski, Polish==
Polish surname (derived from a place name named after an occupation), dated 1625 and 1643 in Abramowicz et al, vol. 1, s.n. Le{s'}nikowski.

=Name Pattern=
==Patronymic phrases==
By precedent, <patronymic particle> + <father's name> is a single name phrase, so needs to be in the same language. The patterns of multiple generation patronyms and patronyms formed from the father's full name are found in Russian per Appendix A of SENA. Double bynames and patronyms also appear in Polish, so the overall basic construction of given + patronym + patronym may be plausible in other Slavic languages as well.

I note that Andrijeva is a feminized PATRONYMIC byname.  So this names has a triple "patronymic".  This is allowed, and indicates that Amalia claiming multiple male relatives.  Most likely, Andrij is her husband, with Mihailo Lesniak being her father.  So it should probably be in the same language as the other patronymics.

===Lingual Mixes===
Slovak is classified as "North Slavic" in the SCA.
According to Appendix C: Lingual Mixes,  North Slavic may be combined with Baltic, German, Hungarian/Romanian, and Russian/East Slavic.  
*South Slavic is conspicuously missing from the above list, so using Serbian and Croatian names with Slovak are a problem without documenting North/South Slavic interaction.  (Shouldn't be a problem, but will take some work.)


If we go with a German "Amalia", it could be combined with: Baltic, Dutch, French, Italian, North Slavic, Scandinavian.  
*No Russian, no South Slavic.


http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#AppendixC

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-=North Slavic Names=
 St. Gabriel Report that touches on Czech names - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/3244.txt
-**[8] Schlimpert, Gerhard, _Slawische Personennamen in Mittelalterlichen
-Quellen zur Deutschen Geschichte_ (Berlin: Akademie-Verlag, 1978)
-**[9] Svoboda, Jan, _Staro{c^}eska/ Osobni/ Jme/na a Na{s^}e
-P{r^}i/jmeni/_ (Praha, {C^}eskoslovenska/ Akademie Ve/d, 1964) p.184
-**[10] Academy of S. Gabriel Report #2458
-http://www.s-gabriel.org/2458
-**[11] Taszycki, Witold (ed.), _S{l/}ownik Staropolskich Nazw Osobowych_
-(Dictionary of Old Polish Personal Names), vols. I-VII (Wroc{l/}aw:
-Zak{l/}ad Narodowy Imienia Ossoli{n'}skich, Polska Akademia Nauk,
--1987). s.nn. Laslo, W{l/}odzis{l/}aw, vol VI p.147 sxn A.4, p.148
-sxn B.3
-ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 2458 - http://www.s-gabriel.org/2458
-**[1] Walraven van Nijmegen, "Common Czech Names of the 15th & 16th
-Centuries" (WWW: Academy of S. Gabriel, 1999).
-http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/walraven/lateczech/
-**[2] Taszycki, Witold (ed.), _S{l/}ownik Staropolskich Nazw Osobowych_,
-vols. I-VII (Wroc{l/}aw: Zak{l/}ad Narodowy Imienia Ossoli{n'}skich, Polska
-Akademia Nauk, 1965-1987), s.n. Andr(z)ej.  In Polish records, the name
-appears in an oblique case as <Andrezeya> 1489, 1498; <Jandrezeya> 1470,
-<Amream> 1445; and in the nominative as <Ondrezey> 1471.  The <J-> spelling
-is likely distinctly Polish, but the other forms are probably appropriate
-for Czech.
-**[6] "Hradec Kra/love/" in _The Columbia Encyclopedia_, Sixth Edition.
-(WWW: Columbia University Press, 2001).
-http://www.bartleby.com/65/hr/HradecKr.html
 =Amalia=
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 **AMALIA BOTT, CHRISTENING 17 Oct 1577 EVANGELISCH, CALMBACH, SCHWARZWALDKREIS, WUERTTEMBERG Batch: C05006-4 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NCSN-VFX
-==Amiliia, Russian==
+==Amiliia==
 Amiliia - expected Russian femininization of Amilii, apostle from Bukharev's Zhitiia vsekh sviatykh.  [Lives of all Saints], thus in the Russian Saints names pool.
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 *Afanasii/Afanasiia, Amplii/Ampliia, Iulii/Iuliia, etc. etc.
-=Andrijeva=
+=Andriejeva=
-==Andrijeva, Croatian==
+==Andrijeva feminized Andrijev, 1527 Vienac==
-Andrijeva is a feminized byname found in Vienac (Vijenac), 1527. Zabavi i pouci. Izdaje (https://books.google.com/books?id=9sKPme_xXwsC&pg=PA325), p. 325. This is a modern source discussing people from 1527. It is derived from the patronymic byname Andrijev, itself derived from the given name Andrij. (The consulting herald is not sure exactly in which Slavic language this book is written.)
+Andrijeva is a feminized byname found in Vienac (Vijenac). Zabavi i pouci. Izdaje (https://books.google.com/books?id=9sKPme_xXwsC&pg=PA325), p. 325. This is a modern source discussing people from 1527. It is derived from the patronymic byname Andrijev, itself derived from the given name Andrij. (The consulting herald is not sure exactly in which Slavic language this book is written.)
 Where/what is Vienac?
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 So, it's Croatian, i.e. South Slavic
-==Andrieva, Russian==
+===Andrii, alternately Andrij, as Russian===
 *Andrii Val'ner, 16th century.  Luka Andriev Zykov, 1602. - Wickenden 3rd edition, s.n. Andrei.
 **Андрий - Andrij = International Phonetic transliteration, Andrij/Andriy/Andrii = period Polish transliteration
 **Андриева - Andrievа = International Phonetic transliteration, Andrievа/Andrjvа (?) = period Polish transliteration
 **period Polish transliteration from Appendix A: Russian Feminine Names on the Western Borderlands in Wickenden 3rd Edition.
-==Andrej, Polish==
--3, 1578 - Old Church Slavonic - http://st-walburga.aspiringluddite.com/docs/Bialystok.pdf
 =doch' =
-==Slovak==
+Russian patronymic particle found in Wickenden. Assistance documenting the correct particle is appreciated.
-Per Google translate, dcéra = daughter
-==Russian==
-Standard feminine patronymic particle found in Wickenden, means "daughter".
-==Polish==
-*syn for son, or filius.  Filia or ? for daughter.  http://st-walburga.aspiringluddite.com/docs/Bialystok.pdf
-*córka = daughter per Google translate
 =Mihajlo=
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 *Mikhaila (simple genitive case) is also an option.
-==Michajlo, Polish==
+=Lesniak=
-"East Slavic" - http://st-walburga.aspiringluddite.com/docs/Bialystok.pdf
+A Russian or Belorussian occupational byname meaning "woodsman, forester" or "person living in a thicket" (see notes from ffride wlffsdotter in the attached documentation).
-=Lesniak=
+Assistance documenting the unmarked form (without a suffix) is appreciated.
-Meant to be a Russian or Belorussian occupational byname meaning "woodsman, forester" or "person living in a thicket" (email with notes from ffride wlffsdotter and attached documentation).
 ==Lesnikov, Russian==
 Russian patronymic-form occupational byname, header in Wickenden, Vasko Lesnikov, c.1495.
 *As noted above with Mikhailo, unmarked patronymics are allowed in Russian by precedent.
-*So Lesnik would be registerable.  As would Lesnika (simple genetive)
+*So Lesnik would be plausible.  As would Lesnika (simple genetive)
 Лясняк, Лесняк alternative undated spellings found in Dal's dictionary.
+Sreznevskii?
-Sreznevskii's "Dictionary" - not found with -iak
-Dictionary.. Academia Nauk - not found with -iak ending
 ==Le{s'}nikowski, Polish==
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 I note that Andrijeva is a feminized PATRONYMIC byname.  So this names has a triple "patronymic".  This is allowed, and indicates that Amalia claiming multiple male relatives.  Most likely, Andrij is her husband, with Mihailo Lesniak being her father.  So it should probably be in the same language as the other patronymics.
-===Polish===
+===Lingual Mixes===
-"Double given names for women are not present, but double bynames are.  For married women, however, these are usually the maiden name and married name, with or without a locative.  In at least one case, the woman's given name is followed by a feminized locative byname and then the feminized form of her husband's full name." p 33 http://st-walburga.aspiringluddite.com/docs/Bialystok.pdf
-So it would be really neat to find a Slovak, Polish, or Czech town named Andrijev to use as a feminized locative byname!
-https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/gazetteer/gazetteer.php
-==Lingual Mixes==
 Slovak is classified as "North Slavic" in the SCA.
 According to Appendix C: Lingual Mixes,  North Slavic may be combined with Baltic, German, Hungarian/Romanian, and Russian/East Slavic.
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 If we go with a German "Amalia", it could be combined with: Baltic, Dutch, French, Italian, North Slavic, Scandinavian.
 *No Russian, no South Slavic.
-Maybe something in Das Rigische Schuldbuch (sic) from Riga?