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=Illustrations:= | =Illustrations:= | ||
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===Dogs on ladder,=== | ===Dogs on ladder,=== | ||
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| Siebmacher 1605, dogs on a ladder, FB image courtesy of Rayne Evynwod. | | Siebmacher 1605, dogs on a ladder, FB image courtesy of Rayne Evynwod. | ||
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==Modern:== | ==Modern:== | ||
===Pictorial Dictionary, 3rd edition:=== | ===Pictorial Dictionary, 3rd edition:'''=== | ||
* [http://mistholme.com/dictionary/dog/ Dog] | * [http://mistholme.com/dictionary/dog/ Dog] | ||
* [http://mistholme.com/dictionary/fox/ Fox] | * [http://mistholme.com/dictionary/fox/ Fox] | ||
* [http://mistholme.com/dictionary/hyena/ Hyena] | * [http://mistholme.com/dictionary/hyena/ Hyena] | ||
* [http://mistholme.com/dictionary/wolf/ Wolf] | * [http://mistholme.com/dictionary/wolf/ Wolf] | ||
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=Precedents:= | =Precedents:= | ||
Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html<br> | Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html]<br> | ||
Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents) | Morsulus Heralds Website - [http://www.morsulus.org/] (to search the LoARs and Precedents) | ||
'' '''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.''' '' | '' '''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.''' '' | ||
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==Definition:== | ==Definition:== | ||
===March 2011 LoAR - mastiff vs Great Dane=== | ===March 2011 LoAR - mastiff vs Great Dane=== | ||
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The submitter wished to use the term "Great Dane" for this dog, and presented evidence, including a LoAR citation from 1992 that claimed that it was a period breed of dog. The article that precedent cites, from the Meridian Symposium Proceedings in 1982, does not list its sources for its claim that Great Danes are a period breed of dog. As it does not list sources, we will no longer rely on its unverifiable claims. The submitter provided a link to a painting supposedly called "Karl V with Great Dane". We have been unable to find any other site verifying that title for that painting, and the dog in the painting lacks many of the identifying characteristics of Great Danes. The Kunsthistoriches Museum, which owns the painting, by Jakob Seisenegger, calls it "Kaiser Karl V mit seinem Englishchen Wasserhund" - "Emperor Charles V with his English water dog." While the breed may or may not be period, there is no evidence that the name "Great Dane" is period. We will, therefore, no longer register "Great Dane" as a recognized breed of dog without new evidence, and will blazon such dogs as ''mastiffs''... | The submitter wished to use the term "Great Dane" for this dog, and presented evidence, including a LoAR citation from 1992 that claimed that it was a period breed of dog. The article that precedent cites, from the Meridian Symposium Proceedings in 1982, does not list its sources for its claim that Great Danes are a period breed of dog. As it does not list sources, we will no longer rely on its unverifiable claims. The submitter provided a link to a painting supposedly called "Karl V with Great Dane". We have been unable to find any other site verifying that title for that painting, and the dog in the painting lacks many of the identifying characteristics of Great Danes. The Kunsthistoriches Museum, which owns the painting, by Jakob Seisenegger, calls it "Kaiser Karl V mit seinem Englishchen Wasserhund" - "Emperor Charles V with his English water dog." While the breed may or may not be period, there is no evidence that the name "Great Dane" is period. We will, therefore, no longer register "Great Dane" as a recognized breed of dog without new evidence, and will blazon such dogs as ''mastiffs''... | ||
* http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/03/11-03lar.html | * http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/03/11-03lar.html | ||
===June 2008 - tailless = defamed, mastiff vs Rottweiler=== | ===June 2008 - tailless = defamed, mastiff vs Rottweiler=== | ||
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The dog's tail is not shown. While tail docking seems to be a modern custom, the fact that the missing tail can be blazoned makes it registerable: Parker's ''Glossary of Heraldic Terms'', p.377, gives ''defamed'' as the term for a tailless beast (e.g., a lion). There is sufficient evidence of mastiff-type dogs in the Rottweil region of Germany during our period that this depiction of a dog is registerable; however, the term ''Rottweiler'' for the breed of dog appears to be a significantly post-period development. Therefore the dog has been registered as a ''mastiff defamed''. | The dog's tail is not shown. While tail docking seems to be a modern custom, the fact that the missing tail can be blazoned makes it registerable: Parker's ''Glossary of Heraldic Terms'', p.377, gives ''defamed'' as the term for a tailless beast (e.g., a lion). There is sufficient evidence of mastiff-type dogs in the Rottweil region of Germany during our period that this depiction of a dog is registerable; however, the term ''Rottweiler'' for the breed of dog appears to be a significantly post-period development. Therefore the dog has been registered as a ''mastiff defamed''. | ||
http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2008/06/08-06lar.html | http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2008/06/08-06lar.html | ||
===November 2002 - dachshund=== | ===November 2002 - dachshund=== | ||
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[http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2002/10/02-10lar.html October 2002 LoAR] | [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2002/10/02-10lar.html October 2002 LoAR] | ||
===October 2002 - three-tailed fox (kitsune): | ===October 2002 - three-tailed fox (kitsune): | ||
Abe Akirakeiko (Oct 2002, Atlantia): Per pale azure and vert, a three-tailed fox passant argent and in base three millrinds two and one Or. [The three-tailed fox is presumably meant to be a kitsune, Japanese shape-shifting fox.] | Abe Akirakeiko (Oct 2002, Atlantia): Per pale azure and vert, a three-tailed fox passant argent and in base three millrinds two and one Or. [The three-tailed fox is presumably meant to be a kitsune, Japanese shape-shifting fox.] | ||
[http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2002/10/02-10lar.html October 2002 LoAR] | [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2002/10/02-10lar.html October 2002 LoAR] | ||
==Registerability:== | ==Registerability:== | ||
''(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)'' | ''(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)'' | ||
===March 2011 - mastiffs=== | ===March 2011 - mastiffs=== | ||
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Blazoned on the Letter of Intent as a ''beagle'', sufficient documentation was provided to show that beagles were a period breed of dog. Unfortunately, the documentation did not prove that the dog in the emblazon matches the actual look of the period breed. | Blazoned on the Letter of Intent as a ''beagle'', sufficient documentation was provided to show that beagles were a period breed of dog. Unfortunately, the documentation did not prove that the dog in the emblazon matches the actual look of the period breed. | ||
* http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2010/08/10-08lar.html | * http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2010/08/10-08lar.html | ||
===May 2005 - bulldog=== | ===May 2005 - bulldog=== | ||
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To the best of our knowledge, period blazons did not specify an exact breed of dog; at best, they would describe a dog by its general characteristics (levrier) or for a cant (talbot). The SCA does permit known period breeds to be specified in blazon, but I consider the practice an anomaly or "weirdness"; another anomaly in the design ...might itself be sufficient grounds for return. (Jean Philippe des Bouviers Noirs, August, 1993, pg. 18) | To the best of our knowledge, period blazons did not specify an exact breed of dog; at best, they would describe a dog by its general characteristics (levrier) or for a cant (talbot). The SCA does permit known period breeds to be specified in blazon, but I consider the practice an anomaly or "weirdness"; another anomaly in the design ...might itself be sufficient grounds for return. (Jean Philippe des Bouviers Noirs, August, 1993, pg. 18) | ||
* http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/bruce/W.html | * http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/bruce/W.html | ||
===January 1993 - blazoning breeds=== | ===January 1993 - blazoning breeds=== | ||
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* http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/wilhelm/dtoi.html | * http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/wilhelm/dtoi.html | ||
==Conflict:== | ==Conflict:== | ||
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Just as we give significant difference between, for example, falcons and swans (when in postures period for falcons and swans), while giving no difference between either and a generic bird, we could easily for canines define a few types (wolf/fox, greyhound, and talbot, for example) each of which is significantly different from one another and a residual category (everything else) which is not significantly different from any of them. Such a plan would allow for a clear precedent regarding both depictions that blurred distinctions (they could be blazoned as generic dogs) and depictions of breeds that are not one of these charges (they would be treated as generic dogs for purposes of conflict). There is, however, insufficient support in the College so no such plan will be implemented at this time. [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2001/06/01-06cl.html 06/01, CL] | Just as we give significant difference between, for example, falcons and swans (when in postures period for falcons and swans), while giving no difference between either and a generic bird, we could easily for canines define a few types (wolf/fox, greyhound, and talbot, for example) each of which is significantly different from one another and a residual category (everything else) which is not significantly different from any of them. Such a plan would allow for a clear precedent regarding both depictions that blurred distinctions (they could be blazoned as generic dogs) and depictions of breeds that are not one of these charges (they would be treated as generic dogs for purposes of conflict). There is, however, insufficient support in the College so no such plan will be implemented at this time. [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2001/06/01-06cl.html 06/01, CL] | ||
* http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elsbeth/armory.html | * http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elsbeth/armory.html | ||
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==Collected Precedents:== | ==Collected Precedents:== | ||
* 2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory2.html#BEASTDog BEAST - Dog], BEAST - Wolf see [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory2.html#BEASTDog BEAST - Dog] | * 2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory2.html#BEASTDog BEAST - Dog], BEAST - Wolf see [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory2.html#BEASTDog BEAST - Dog] | ||
* 1st Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) -[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#BEASTDog BEAST - Dog], BEAST - Fox see [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#BEASTDog BEAST - Dog], BEAST - Hyena see [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#BEASTDog BEAST - Dog], BEAST - Wolf see [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#BEASTDog BEAST - Dog] | * 1st Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) -[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#BEASTDog BEAST - Dog], BEAST - Fox see [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#BEASTDog BEAST - Dog], BEAST - Hyena see [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#BEASTDog BEAST - Dog], BEAST - Wolf see [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#BEASTDog BEAST - Dog]</span> | ||
I The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - [http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/armoryprec.html#BEASTDog BEAST -- Dog and Wolf] | |||
* The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/shauna/armory.html#BEASTDog Dog and Wolf] | * The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/shauna/armory.html#BEASTDog Dog and Wolf] | ||
* The 1st Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/francois/wreath.html#BEASTDog BEAST -- Dog and Wolf] | * The 1st Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/francois/wreath.html#BEASTDog BEAST -- Dog and Wolf] | ||
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=In the Ordinary= | =In the Ordinary= | ||
(includes alaunt, beagle, bitch, brachet, canine, collie, cur, fox, great dane, greyhound, hound, husky, hyena, levrier, loat, mastiff, poodle, samoyed, setter, spaniel, wolf cub, etc.) | (includes alaunt, beagle, bitch, brachet, canine, collie, cur, fox, great dane, greyhound, hound, husky, hyena, levrier, loat, mastiff, poodle, samoyed, setter, spaniel, wolf cub, etc.) |