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==March 2004 - appropriate up to c1100== | ==March 2004 - appropriate up to c1100== | ||
158 '''Iror the Insane.''' Name. "''Iror'' is documented as an Old Norse masculine given name in Geirr Bassi (p. 12). As such, it is undated but appropriate for up to approximately 1100. " | #158 '''Iror the Insane.''' Name. "''Iror'' is documented as an Old Norse masculine given name in Geirr Bassi (p. 12). As such, it is undated but appropriate for up to approximately 1100. " | ||
http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2004/03/04-03lar.html | http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2004/03/04-03lar.html | ||
==November 2003 - c. 1100 or earlier== | ==November 2003 - c. 1100 or earlier== | ||
147 '''Anna allrasystir Úlfsdóttir.''' Name. "Submitted as '' | #147 '''Anna allrasystir Úlfsdóttir.''' Name. "Submitted as ''Ann<u>y__a __A</u>llrasystir Úlfsdóttir'', the submitted name combines a 16th C Russian given name with a pair of Old Norse bynames (appropriate for c. 1100 or earlier)..." | ||
http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2003/11/03-11lar.html | http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2003/11/03-11lar.html | ||
=Geirr Bassi Errors</span>= | =Geirr Bassi Errors</span>= | ||
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Njáls saga says: | Njáls saga says: | ||
"Var hann fyrir því kallaðr Þorkell hákr að hann eirði hvártki í orðum né verkum við hvern sem hann átti." ([http://www.facebook.com/l/cAQEPa9Oq/books.google.com/books?id=dsIXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA283| Google Books] ) | '''"Var hann fyrir því kallaðr Þorkell hákr að hann eirði hvártki í orðum né verkum við hvern sem hann átti." (''' '''[http://www.facebook.com/l/cAQEPa9Oq/books.google.com/books?id=dsIXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA283| Google Books]''' ) | ||
[He was called Thorkel foulmouth, because he spared no one with whom he had to do either in word or deed. ([http://www.facebook.com/l/KAQEvNTWv/sagadb.org/brennu-njals_saga.en%23118| http://sagadb.org/brennu-njals_saga.en#118])] | [He was called Thorkel foulmouth, because he spared no one with whom he had to do either in word or deed. ([http://www.facebook.com/l/KAQEvNTWv/sagadb.org/brennu-njals_saga.en%23118|http://sagadb.org/brennu-njals_saga.en#118])] | ||
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Geirr Bassi defines <þrymr> as "loud noise, alarm" | Geirr Bassi defines <þrymr> as "loud noise, alarm" | ||
Finnur Jónsson ([http://www.facebook.com/l/7AQE6aglW/books.google.com/books?id=KWkSAAAAYAAJ| http://books.google.com/books?id=KWkSAAAAYAAJ][[http://www.facebook.com/l/pAQGQBm_E/heimskringla.no/wiki/Tilnavne_i_den_islandske_oldlitteratur| http://heimskringla.no/wiki/Tilnavne_i_den_islandske_oldlitteratur]) gives the bynames <þrymr>, <þrumr> and also the prefixed bynames <þrym-> and <Þrum-> and defines this as "calm and silent".</span> | Finnur Jónsson ([http://www.facebook.com/l/7AQE6aglW/books.google.com/books?id=KWkSAAAAYAAJ|http://books.google.com/books?id=KWkSAAAAYAAJ][[http://www.facebook.com/l/pAQGQBm_E/heimskringla.no/wiki/Tilnavne_i_den_islandske_oldlitteratur|http://heimskringla.no/wiki/Tilnavne_i_den_islandske_oldlitteratur]) gives the bynames <þrymr>, <þrumr> and also the prefixed bynames <þrym-> and <Þrum-> and defines this as "calm and silent".</span> | ||
Geirr Bassi got his definition from the Cleasby-Vigfusson Old Icelandic dictionary ([http://www.facebook.com/l/8AQEqdCUC/www.ling.upenn.edu/~kurisuto/germanic/oi_cleasbyvigfusson_about.html| http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~kurisuto/germanic/oi_cleasbyvigfusson_about.html], see p.747), which has some related terms that appear to have led GB astray: | Geirr Bassi got his definition from the Cleasby-Vigfusson Old Icelandic dictionary ([http://www.facebook.com/l/8AQEqdCUC/www.ling.upenn.edu/~kurisuto/germanic/oi_cleasbyvigfusson_about.html|http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~kurisuto/germanic/oi_cleasbyvigfusson_about.html], see p.747), which has some related terms that appear to have led GB astray: | ||
● þrymr (masc. noun) "an alarm, noise" | |||
● þrymr (adjective) "glorious" | |||
● þryma (fem. noun) "an alarm, noise" | |||
● þruma (fem. noun) "a thunderclap" | |||
● þruma (verb) "to rattle, to thunder" | |||
However, one must be aware that these words some front mutation of the back vowel "u" to the front vowel "y", hence the various spellings. Old Norse "u" and "y" both have similar sounds. E.V. Gordon (An Introduction to Old Norse) says: | However, one must be aware that these words some front mutation of the back vowel "u" to the front vowel "y", hence the various spellings. Old Norse "u" and "y" both have similar sounds. E.V. Gordon (An Introduction to Old Norse) says: | ||
● <u> as in French <roux> | |||
● <ú> as in droop | |||
● <y> as in French <tu> | |||
● <ý> as in French <pur> | |||
(Are there better English words to illustrate the sounds for which Gordon uses French examples?) | (Are there better English words to illustrate the sounds for which Gordon uses French examples?) | ||
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Armed with this knowledge, and going back to Cleasby-Vigfusson, sure enough: | Armed with this knowledge, and going back to Cleasby-Vigfusson, sure enough: | ||
● þrumr (masc. noun) "a slow person, moper" used as a nickname: "hann var þógull ok fálátr, þvi var hann kallaðr Þrym-Ketill" [He was silent and aloof, so he was called Þrym-Ketill] | |||
● þrymja, þrumði = þruma (verb) "to sit fast, mope" | |||
● þruma (verb) "to mope, tarry, stay behind, loiter" | |||
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