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Marcus Atilius Pansa. Name and device. Per pale argent and sable, a gorgon's head between in saltire four bulls passant respectant all counterchanged. "We are overturning precedent dating to the December 1984 registration of the badge of Manfred von Halsstern, Argent, a Gorgon's head cabossed sable, langued and orbed, within a pair of bull's horns gules where it was stated, "Cabossed is a perfectly reasonable default for a Gorgon's head ­­ it is the obvious and most recognizable aspect -­ but given the proliferation of ad hoc defaults in SCA heraldry, it is probably better to err on the side of explicitness." We explicitly define cabossed as the default orientation of a gorgon's head, and no longer choose to explicitly blazon it."
Marcus Atilius Pansa. Name and device. Per pale argent and sable, a gorgon's head between in saltire four bulls passant respectant all counterchanged. "We are overturning precedent dating to the December 1984 registration of the badge of Manfred von Halsstern, Argent, a Gorgon's head cabossed sable, langued and orbed, within a pair of bull's horns gules where it was stated, "Cabossed is a perfectly reasonable default for a Gorgon's head ­­ it is the obvious and most recognizable aspect -­ but given the proliferation of ad hoc defaults in SCA heraldry, it is probably better to err on the side of explicitness." We explicitly define cabossed as the default orientation of a gorgon's head, and no longer choose to explicitly blazon it."
https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2020/08/20-08lar.html#117
https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2020/08/20-08lar.html#117
===May 2011 - wild man vs greenman===
[a human face crined and bearded of oak leaves] This device is returned because the head is not identifiable. Commenters pointed out, rightly, that the head is not only crined and bearded of leaves, it is entirely composed of leaves. Precedent says:
[returning a charge blazoned as a mans head cabossed crined and bearded of leaves] This is being returned for non-reproducibility. If the submitter had drawn what was blazoned we would consider registering it. However, the blazon does not adequately describe the emblazon. While the head could be described as bearded of leaves, we could come up with no heraldic way to describe the hair - crined of leaves does not describe it. (Shane McNeil de la Forest, Sembember 1996, R-An Tir]
Kingdom noted the following precedent:
Blazoned on the LoI as a wildman's head, a wildman or savage is a period heraldic charge that looks little like the charge submitted here: a wildman's head would be a normal human head, bearded, wearing a wreath of leaves. Some commenters suggested this was a greenman's head. The term greenman was coined in 1939 for a medieval artistic motif. There are period examples online (such as at http://www.chrispye-woodcarving.com/greenman/gm_index.html) that look nothing like this submission -- or each other. Some don't even look like human faces. As there is no fixed form (and therefore no heraldic form) for this motif, a greenman's head is not registerable per se. However, as emblazoned the head can be blazoned as a human face crined and bearded of foliage and we will so register it. [Santiago Carrillo de Guadalupe, March 2006 A-Outlands]
Santiago's head, however, is a face outlined with leaves as if they were the beard and hair, not a complete face entirely constructed of leaves, in the modern "green-man" style, and thus the 2006 registration does not overturn the precedent. Bran's is a face entirely composed of leaves, with eyes, nose, and mouth drawn in. Unless period evidence is produced for such a charge in period heraldry, charges composed of leaves will be considered unblazonable and, therefore, unregisterable.
[https://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory2.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR1SFsO83ER6DAAMAL6Kyhc0kI30FO4T1Pfi0wiHahpe-8M7dbqH1nEh6OI_aem_ZmFrZWR1bW15MTZieXRlcw#CHARGE_HEADH Bran ap Rees, 05/2011, R-East]


===November 2001 - couped/erased:===  
===November 2001 - couped/erased:===  
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*This does not affect the registerability of demon heads, which have a far more standard depiction.</span>
*This does not affect the registerability of demon heads, which have a far more standard depiction.</span>
http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/08/11-08cl.html
http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/08/11-08cl.html
===May 2011 - wild man vs greenman===
[a human face crined and bearded of oak leaves] This device is returned because the head is not identifiable. Commenters pointed out, rightly, that the head is not only crined and bearded of leaves, it is entirely composed of leaves. Precedent says:
[returning a charge blazoned as a mans head cabossed crined and bearded of leaves] This is being returned for non-reproducibility. If the submitter had drawn what was blazoned we would consider registering it. However, the blazon does not adequately describe the emblazon. While the head could be described as bearded of leaves, we could come up with no heraldic way to describe the hair - crined of leaves does not describe it. (Shane McNeil de la Forest, Sembember 1996, R-An Tir]
Kingdom noted the following precedent:
Blazoned on the LoI as a wildman's head, a wildman or savage is a period heraldic charge that looks little like the charge submitted here: a wildman's head would be a normal human head, bearded, wearing a wreath of leaves. Some commenters suggested this was a greenman's head. The term greenman was coined in 1939 for a medieval artistic motif. There are period examples online (such as at http://www.chrispye-woodcarving.com/greenman/gm_index.html) that look nothing like this submission -- or each other. Some don't even look like human faces. As there is no fixed form (and therefore no heraldic form) for this motif, a greenman's head is not registerable per se. However, as emblazoned the head can be blazoned as a human face crined and bearded of foliage and we will so register it. [Santiago Carrillo de Guadalupe, March 2006 A-Outlands]
Santiago's head, however, is a face outlined with leaves as if they were the beard and hair, not a complete face entirely constructed of leaves, in the modern "green-man" style, and thus the 2006 registration does not overturn the precedent. Bran's is a face entirely composed of leaves, with eyes, nose, and mouth drawn in. Unless period evidence is produced for such a charge in period heraldry, charges composed of leaves will be considered unblazonable and, therefore, unregisterable.
[https://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory2.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR1SFsO83ER6DAAMAL6Kyhc0kI30FO4T1Pfi0wiHahpe-8M7dbqH1nEh6OI_aem_ZmFrZWR1bW15MTZieXRlcw#CHARGE_HEADH Bran ap Rees, 05/2011, R-East]


==Conflict:==  
==Conflict:==  
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==Identifiability/Reproducibility:==
==Identifiability:==  


===May 2011 - wild man vs greenman===
[a human face crined and bearded of oak leaves] This device is returned because the head is not identifiable. Commenters pointed out, rightly, that the head is not only crined and bearded of leaves, it is entirely composed of leaves. Precedent says:
[returning a charge blazoned as a mans head cabossed crined and bearded of leaves] This is being returned for non-reproducibility. If the submitter had drawn what was blazoned we would consider registering it. However, the blazon does not adequately describe the emblazon. While the head could be described as bearded of leaves, we could come up with no heraldic way to describe the hair - crined of leaves does not describe it. (Shane McNeil de la Forest, Sembember 1996, R-An Tir]
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[https://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory2.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR1SFsO83ER6DAAMAL6Kyhc0kI30FO4T1Pfi0wiHahpe-8M7dbqH1nEh6OI_aem_ZmFrZWR1bW15MTZieXRlcw#CHARGE_HEADH Bran ap Rees, 05/2011, R-East]


==Collected Precedents:==  
==Collected Precedents:==  
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