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=<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">SENA Appendix A: Patterns That Do Not Need Further Documentation...</span>= | |||
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[http:''heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#AppendixA|http:''heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#AppendixA]] (as of 12 October 2013)</span> | |||
= | <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">'''Romany'''</span> | ||
<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">Romany are known to have used two names: a private name used only in their community, and a vernacular use name, used in interactions with locals. We do not currently have evidence of the elements or structure of private names before 1600; without such evidence they cannot be registered. In general, forming a name appropriate for the desired region/language where a Romany persona is living (e.g., "A from X") follows period usage.</span> | |||
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=<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">'''SENA Appendix C: Regional Naming Groups and Their Mixes'''</span>= | |||
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[http:''heraldry.sca.org/laurel/sena.html#AppendixC|http:''heraldry.sca.org/laurel/sena.html#AppendixC]]</span> | |||
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http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/sena.html#AppendixC | |||
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| '''Regional Groups:''' || '''By Time Period:''' || '''Languages Included In This Group:''' || '''Can Be Combined With Groups:''' | | '''Regional Groups:''' || '''By Time Period:''' || '''Languages Included In This Group:''' || '''Can Be Combined With Groups:''' | ||
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| Romany, etc.</span> || 550-1100 || n/a || n/a | | <span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Romany, etc.</span> || 550-1100 || n/a || n/a | ||
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|^ || 1100-1600 || Romany, etc. || <span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Special: Romany names documented from location X are registerable with (1) other names documented from the languages for that language group and (2) with other Romany names documented from other parts of Europe</span> | |||
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|<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html]]</span> | |||
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|<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Morsulus Heralds Website - [[http://www.morsulus.org/]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents)</span> | |||
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| | |<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Restatement Wiki - [[http://yehudaheraldry.com/restatement/index.php?title=Main_Page]] (restatements of Precedents)</span> | ||
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|''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">'''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.'''</span>'' | |||
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==Collected Name Precedents: Romany/Gypsy== | =='''Collected Name Precedents: Romany/Gypsy -'''== | ||
http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/RomanyGypsy.html | <span style="line-height: 1.5;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/RomanyGypsy.html]]</span> | ||
== | ==4/2015 - Gypsy as offensive term:== | ||
Richard the Roma. Name. "Submitted as Richard the Gipsy, this name was pended from the November 2014 Letter of Acceptances and Returns to discuss whether the byname the Gipsy is offensive under PN5B3 of SENA: | [[#170]]Richard the Roma. Name. "Submitted as Richard the Gipsy, this name was pended from the November 2014 Letter of Acceptances and Returns to discuss whether the byname the Gipsy is offensive under PN5B3 of SENA: | ||
> Names which include ethnic, racial, or sexuality-based slurs and references to derogatory stereotypes will not be registered. This is not dependent on the period associations of the usage. It is an issue based on modern understandings of the offensiveness of terms. General references to ethnic, racial, or sexual identities are not offensive and may be registered. | > Names which include ethnic, racial, or sexuality-based slurs and references to derogatory stereotypes will not be registered. This is not dependent on the period associations of the usage. It is an issue based on modern understandings of the offensiveness of terms. General references to ethnic, racial, or sexual identities are not offensive and may be registered. | ||
Although we have registered forms of the Gypsy in the past, the term Gipsy is considered to be derogatory and a slur by the Roma themselves. The Roma (or Romani) are subject to real-world discrimination and systematic abuse, particularly in Europe. Therefore, gypsy and related terms like the Russian tsigane, Romanian tigani, and German zigeuner are offensive and not registerable. General ethnic bynames of similar derivation, but that don't have the same negative connotation today (like Czygan, a common Hungarian surname not considered to be offensive) will be considered on a case-by-case basis. We note that the lingua Anglica form Gypsy or the Gypsy would not be permitted, even if it is a literal translation of an acceptable ethnic byname like Czygan. The intent is not to ban the ability to recreate Romani culture, just the use of terms that the Roma themselves consider to be offensive. | Although we have registered forms of the Gypsy in the past, the term Gipsy is considered to be derogatory and a slur by the Roma themselves. The Roma (or Romani) are subject to real-world discrimination and systematic abuse, particularly in Europe. Therefore, gypsy and related terms like the Russian tsigane, Romanian tigani, and German zigeuner are offensive and not registerable. General ethnic bynames of similar derivation, but that don't have the same negative connotation today (like Czygan, a common Hungarian surname not considered to be offensive) will be considered on a case-by-case basis. We note that the lingua Anglica form Gypsy or the Gypsy would not be permitted, even if it is a literal translation of an acceptable ethnic byname like Czygan. The intent is not to ban the ability to recreate Romani culture, just the use of terms that the Roma themselves consider to be offensive. | ||
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