Drinking Horn

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Illustrations:

Period source/s:

Triskelion of interlaced drinking horns, Snoldelev Runestone

BSB 390 Brechtel Wappenbuch, 1554-68, interlaced horns

Modern:

PicDic:

Brickbat's Armorial Stash - http://atensubmissions.nexiliscom.com/HeraldicArtBits.shtml:

Pennsic Traceable Art Project

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Sources:

Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/

Archive of St. Gabriel reports - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/archive.cgi

Laurel Armory Articles - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/armory_articles.html

Period Armorials

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Glossary of Terms, Default Postures:

Horn (animal or monster)	Palewise, point to chief or point to dexter
Horn (drinking)	Palewise, bell to chief [inner curve to sinister per April 2010 Cover Letter]
Horn (hunting)	Bell to dexter
Horn (straight trumpet)	Palewise, bell to chief
Horn of plenty	Effluent to dexter

http://heraldry.sca.org/coagloss.html#default

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Precedents:

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html

Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)

Restatement Wiki - http://yehudaheraldry.com/restatement/index.php?title=Main_Page (restatements of Precedents)

Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.

Definition:

From the April 2010 Cover Letter:

From Wreath: Drinking Horns - Last month, there were a number of reblazons of pairs of drinking horns to match the newly defined default. Unfortunately, the new default was only stated in the acceptance for Óláfr Starkaðsson. We repeat and expand it here so that it is not overlooked.

There has been no consistency in which part of the horn is the 'back', so 'horns addorsed' are not well defined. We have decided to define the longer, outer part of the curve as the back. The horns in Óláfr's submission are back-to-back, which makes them addorsed. Horns with the points facing towards each other are respectant; a "pair of drinking horns" is assumed to be respectant (it need not be blazoned). "Two drinking horns" will have both inner curves (fronts) pointed to sinister. All drinking horns will open to chief by default.

http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2010/04/10-04cl.html

January 2007 - trousers of nobility are drinking horns:

TROUSERS of NOBILITY

We have consistently reblazoned trousers of nobility as a pair of drinking horns (e.g., January 2003, Scheherazade al-Zahira). We will continue to do so. [Hamdun al-Rashid the Toe, 01/2007, A-Atenveldt]

http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#TROUSER

January 2002 - trousers of nobility vs drinking horns:

Ali al Ahmed Abdullah. Device change. Gules, on a fess between in chief the phrase "there is no strength and power but that of the Almighty and the All-powerful" in Arabic Kufic script, and in base three fleams Or, a domed mosque of one minaret between a pair of drinking horns gules.

• The items blazoned here as a "pair of drinking horns" were on the Letter of Intent as "trousers of nobility." While the latter blazon is found in books on the insignia of the Arabs, the SCA has consistently blazoned the charges as a pair of drinking horns. Since the submitter's form blazoned these as drinking horns, we have blazoned them in this fashion, although we are willing to consider adding the phrase "trousers of nobility" to SCA blazon.

http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2002/01/02-01lar.html

March 1998 - use of term "trousers of nobility":

Baybars ibn Abdallah al-Qasimi. Name and device. Gules, on a fess Or, a Saracenic pen box gules and in base a pair of drinking horns Or.

Submitted on the LoI as Baybars ibn-Abdallah al-Qasimi, we have removed the inappropriate hyphen between ibn and Abdallah. Blazoned on the LoI astrousers of nobility, there have been no prior registrations in the SCA of trousers of nobility. In a device returned for other reasons in the January 1995 LoAR, p. 16, Laurel reblazoned a set of trousers of nobility as follows: "Blazoned as trousers of nobility in the LoI, the 'horns' are clearly drawn as drinking horns, and not the Arabic charges known as 'trousers of nobility'." We require that heraldic charges adopted from other cultures be blazonable in standard heraldic terms. "Our emphasis is on European armory; our policy on Japanese-style submissions parallels the Society's policy on Japanese personae. Japanese personae are considered visitors to a European court (v. the SCA Organizational Handbook, p.74); Japanese-style armory are considered the attempts of such visitors to register their mon with a European king of arms. As noted in the return of Sakura Kita Maikeru (in the March section of the LoAR [p. 20]), this policy has been in place at least since April 83 --- as have the policy's logical extensions. Mon must be blazonable in European heraldic terminology, and meet European standards of style." (Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme, 8 May, 1993 Cover Letter (with the March, 1993 LoAR), pp. 2-3) [emphasis added] "The torii is still permitted in Society heraldry, due to its modern familiarity among Occidentals (for instance, the word is found in Webster's Collegiate Dictionary) and its valid reblazon as a Japanese gateway." (Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme, LoAR June 1993, p. 22) Trousers of nobility are clearly not blazonable in "European heraldic terminology"; they don't even look like trousers. Nor is the term found outside of a very narrow range of study that of "Saracenic heraldry", a less widely known field than the study even of mon. (Indeed, in one of the two primary English language books on the subject, Heraldic Symbols: Islamic Insignia and Western Heraldry, the term "trousers of nobility" does not even appear in the index. Where the charges are blazoned in the text, they are blazoned as "horns", "two horns", or "a pair of horns". [See, e.g., p. 76].) Further, there is disagreement among the experts as to exactly what the "trousers of nobility" found in Mamluk heraldic designs represent. Some feel that they are horns of some type. (Based on the fact that they look like, for example, drinking horns.) They certainly do not look like an article of clothing. A counter-argument is that they are only found in pairs, like the legs of pants, whereas one would normally expect to find single drinking horns. A rebuttal to that argument is that they are always shown as disconnected, often with a charge (like a cup, etc.) completely separating them, which one would not expect of trousers or pants. Given all of these factors (the unblazonability in standard heraldic terminology, the fact that not even the experts agree as to what the charge represents), we will not use the term trousers of nobility in the SCA. Owing to their similarity to drinking horns we will use the blazon of "a pair of drinking horns". The term trousers of nobility will be considered in the same category as tomoe or a great wave, charges now unregisterable in the SCA because they are not blazonable in European heraldic terminology.

http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/1998/03/lar.html

Registerability:

(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)

September 2014 LoAR - three horns interlaced: ==

Grímólfr Skúlason. Badge for Spak-Hrafns hús. Gules, three drinking horns fretted in triangle mouths inward and on a chief argent a valknut between two ravens respectant sable. "The use of a valknut is a step from period practice."

http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2014/09/14-09lar.html#221

Collected Precedents:

Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - 

The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) -

The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) -

The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) -

The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) -

The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) -

The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) -

The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) -

The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -

The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) -

The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) -

The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) -

The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) -

The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) -

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The Ordinary :

• Drinking horn