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Sparks are discussed in an article by H. Stanford London (Coat of Arms, vol. II, No. 11, July 1952, p. 111) and Brault's "Early Blazon".
Sparks are discussed in an article by H. Stanford London (Coat of Arms, vol. II, No. 11, July 1952, p. 111) and Brault's "Early Blazon".


=Illustrations:=  
=Illustrations:=  
==<span style="font-size: 1.1em; line-height: 1.5;">'''Period Forms:'''</span>==  
==Period Forms:==  
{|
{|
| https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11001903_10204397416349875_2147638626577923088_n.jpg?oh=b965308763398c57bd6b00c4c154d58a&oe=5582484C&<u>gda</u>=1431710761_9898eb3b7c66aa97af0c4cb7bc5cd868  
| [[File:BallardsBook c1485 Lumley poppinjays.jpg|250px]]  
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| Ballard's Book (William Ballard Exeter Herald) c. 1485, arms of Lumley, poppinjays, sparks as diapering. FB image courtesy of Bruce Draconarius via the 1936 Heralds' Commemorative Exhibition Catalog.
| Ballard's Book (William Ballard Exeter Herald) c. 1485, arms of Lumley, poppinjays, sparks as diapering. Courtesy of Bruce Draconarius via the 1936 Heralds' Commemorative Exhibition Catalog.
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|}


==Modern Images:==  
==Modern Images:==  
===='''Pictorial Dictionary of SCA Heraldry (3rd edition):'''====  
===Pictorial Dictionary of SCA Heraldry (3rd edition):===  
<span style="display: block; font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;">
* [http://mistholme.com/dictionary/sparks/ Sparks]]
* <span style="font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;">''<span style="background-color: #edf6fe; color: #123b66; font-family: inherit; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">[[http://mistholme.com/dictionary/sparks/|Sparks]]</span>''</span>
</span>


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===<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Sources:</span>===  
=Sources:=  
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - [[http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/]]</span>
Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Archive of St. Gabriel reports - [[http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/archive.cgi]]</span>
 
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Laurel Armory Articles - [[http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/armory_articles.html]]</span>
Archive of St. Gabriel reports - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/archive.cgi
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[scaheraldry/Period Armorials|Period Armorials]]</span>
 
Laurel Armory Articles - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/armory_articles.html
 
[[Period Armorials]]


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===Precedents:===  
=Precedents:=  
Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html]]
Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html
Morsulus Heralds Website - [[http://www.morsulus.org/]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents)
 
Restatement Wiki - [[http://yehudaheraldry.com/restatement/index.php?title=Main_Page]] (restatements of Precedents)
Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)
 
Restatement Wiki - http://yehudaheraldry.com/restatement/index.php?title=Main_Page (restatements of Precedents)
 
'''''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.'''''
'''''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.'''''




====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;"><u>'''Definition/Defining Instance:'''</u></span>====  
==Definition/Defining Instance:==  


===June 2016 CL - 1-and-2 vs 2-and-1===  
===June 2016 CL - 1-and-2 vs 2-and-1===  
This month, once again, a submission came up for discussion with an estencelly field where the sparks were grouped in two and one configuration rather than one and two.
This month, once again, a submission came up for discussion with an estencelly field where the sparks were grouped in two and one configuration rather than one and two.
Commenters cited the precedent from March 2013:
Commenters cited the precedent from March 2013:
> "Please advise the submitter to draw the sparks as groupings of roundels one and two, not two and one. This depiction of sparks two and one may not be registerable without period evidence in the future." [Jan Langhe ten Wald, A-Æthelmearc]
* "Please advise the submitter to draw the sparks as groupings of roundels one and two, not two and one. This depiction of sparks two and one may not be registerable without period evidence in the future." [Jan Langhe ten Wald, A-Æthelmearc]
They also noted that in November 2015 that warning wasn't repeated, as the decision simply stated:
They also noted that in November 2015 that warning wasn't repeated, as the decision simply stated:
> "Please advise the submitter to draw the sparks as groupings of roundels one and two, not two and one." [Evangeline Bajolet, November 2015 ,A-Calontir].
* "Please advise the submitter to draw the sparks as groupings of roundels one and two, not two and one." [Evangeline Bajolet, November 2015 ,A-Calontir].
 
Gerard Brault's "Early Blazon" defines "Estencelé" as "powdered with sparks, i.e. clusters of three or four small dots". Although the modern depiction he gives has the estencely as the generally accepted one and two depiction, he goes on further to cite "Medieval practice tolerated considerable diversity in verbal as well as pictorial blazon". Thus it seems difficult to consider it as a firm endorsement of a single possible depiction for estencely fields. Although both he and the cited "Scintillatum Auro: The Spark in Armory" by H. Stanford London mention that it might have been in some cases a form of diapering it was also in cases specifically blazoned and can't be considered accidental. Of note, the figure 2 in "Scintillatum Auro: The Spark in Armory" has the sparks in various orientations.
Gerard Brault's "Early Blazon" defines "Estencelé" as "powdered with sparks, i.e. clusters of three or four small dots". Although the modern depiction he gives has the estencely as the generally accepted one and two depiction, he goes on further to cite "Medieval practice tolerated considerable diversity in verbal as well as pictorial blazon". Thus it seems difficult to consider it as a firm endorsement of a single possible depiction for estencely fields. Although both he and the cited "Scintillatum Auro: The Spark in Armory" by H. Stanford London mention that it might have been in some cases a form of diapering it was also in cases specifically blazoned and can't be considered accidental. Of note, the figure 2 in "Scintillatum Auro: The Spark in Armory" has the sparks in various orientations.
Furthermore, we can see in a period armorial that period heraldic artists were not necessarily particular about maintaining a constant orientation for sparks as can be seen on the folio 144r of the Armorial de Gilles le Bouvier, dit Berry. (http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b85285803/f295.item.zoom).
 
Furthermore, we can see in a period armorial that period heraldic artists were not necessarily particular about maintaining a constant orientation for sparks as can be seen on the folio 144r of the Armorial de Gilles le Bouvier, dit Berry. (http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b85285803/f295.item.zoom ).
 
Based on the variability of period depiction, we are declaring the two and one depiction of sparks registerable, with a note that the one and two arrangement of sparks would appear more likely. No difference will be granted for the orientation of the sparks and that orientation will not be blazoned.
Based on the variability of period depiction, we are declaring the two and one depiction of sparks registerable, with a note that the one and two arrangement of sparks would appear more likely. No difference will be granted for the orientation of the sparks and that orientation will not be blazoned.
http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2016/06/16-06cl.html
http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2016/06/16-06cl.html


====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Registerability:]]<u>'''Registerability:'''</u></span>====  
==Registerability:==  
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)</span>
(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)


====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Conflict:]]<u>'''Conflict:'''</u></span>====  
==Conflict:==  


===June 2016 CL - 1-and-2 vs 2-and-1===  
===June 2016 CL - 1-and-2 vs 2-and-1===  
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http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2016/06/16-06cl.html
http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2016/06/16-06cl.html


====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Identifiability:]]<u>'''Identifiability:'''</u></span>====  
==Identifiability:==  




'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008)</span>'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;"> - </span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#ESTENCELY|ESTENCELY]]</span>
==Collected Precedents:==
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - na</span>'''
* 2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory2.html Collected Armory Precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) -</span>''' <span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/shauna/armory.html|Collected Armory Precedents]]</span>
* 1st Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#ESTENCELY ESTENCELY]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) -</span>''' <span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/francois/wreath.html|Collected Armory Precedents]]</span>
* The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - na
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) -</span>''' <span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elsbeth/armory.html|Collected Armory Precedents]]</span>
* The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/shauna/armory.html Collected Armory Precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) -</span>''' <span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #006600; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/jaeprec.html|Single HTML Document]]</span>
* 1st Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/francois/wreath.html Collected Armory Precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) -</span>''' <span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #006600;">[[http:''heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/volume3.html|the 1st part]]</span><span style="background-color: #ffffff;"> (Nov 1993 - June 1994) and </span><span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #006600;">[[http:''heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/daudIITOC.html|the 2nd part]]</span><span style="background-color: #ffffff;"> (July 1994 - June 1996)</span>
* The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elsbeth/armory.html Collected Armory Precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) -</span>''' <span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/bruce/|Collected precedents]]</span>
* The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/jaeprec.html Single HTML Document]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -</span>''' <span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #006600;">[[http:''heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1toc.html|the 1st year]]</span><span style="background-color: #ffffff;"> (June 1990 - June 1991) and </span><span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #006600;">[[http:''heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1btoc.html|the 2nd year]]</span><span style="background-color: #ffffff;"> (July 1991 - June 1992)</span>
* 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) -
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) -</span>''' <span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/alisoun/AMETOP.html|Collected Precedents]]</span>
** [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/volume3.html the 1st part (Nov 1993 - June 1994)] and  
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) -</span>''' <span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #006600; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/baldwin.html|Single HTML Document]]</span>
** [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/daudIITOC.html the 2nd part (July 1994 - June 1996)]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) -</span>''' <span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/wilhelm/volume3.html|Collected Precedents]]</span>
* The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/bruce/ Collected precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) -</span>''' <span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/karina/volume2.html|Collected Precedents]]</span>
* 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) -</span>''' <span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #006600;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/early/volume1.html|Collected Precedents]]</span>
**  [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1toc.html the 1st year (June 1990 - June 1991)] and
 
**  [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1btoc.html the 2nd year (July 1991 - June 1992)]
* The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/alisoun/AMETOP.html Collected Precedents]
* The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/baldwin.html Single HTML Document]
* The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/wilhelm/volume3.html Collected Precedents]
* The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/karina/volume2.html Collected Precedents]
* The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/early/volume1.html Collected Precedents]


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===<u><span style="line-height: 1.5;">'''In the [[scaheraldry/Ordinary|Ordinary]]'''</span></u><span style="line-height: 1.5;">:</span>===  
=Ordinary:=  
(includes estencely)
(includes estencely)
* [[http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_desc.cgi?p=SPARKS|Sparks]]
* [http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_desc.cgi?p=SPARKS Sparks]
 
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[[Category:Armory]] [[Category:Charges]]

Latest revision as of 15:41, 12 January 2019

WARNING: Do not cite this page as a reference. This page is on this wiki only to make the content "searchable" and easier to find. If you find the information you seek here, go to the original sources to verify the information and use them for your documentation.



Sparks are discussed in an article by H. Stanford London (Coat of Arms, vol. II, No. 11, July 1952, p. 111) and Brault's "Early Blazon".

Illustrations:[edit | edit source]

Period Forms:[edit | edit source]

BallardsBook c1485 Lumley poppinjays.jpg
Ballard's Book (William Ballard Exeter Herald) c. 1485, arms of Lumley, poppinjays, sparks as diapering. Courtesy of Bruce Draconarius via the 1936 Heralds' Commemorative Exhibition Catalog.

Modern Images:[edit | edit source]

Pictorial Dictionary of SCA Heraldry (3rd edition):[edit | edit source]


Sources:[edit | edit source]

Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/

Archive of St. Gabriel reports - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/archive.cgi

Laurel Armory Articles - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/armory_articles.html

Period Armorials


Precedents:[edit | edit source]

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html

Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)

Restatement Wiki - http://yehudaheraldry.com/restatement/index.php?title=Main_Page (restatements of Precedents)

Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.


Definition/Defining Instance:[edit | edit source]

June 2016 CL - 1-and-2 vs 2-and-1[edit | edit source]

This month, once again, a submission came up for discussion with an estencelly field where the sparks were grouped in two and one configuration rather than one and two. Commenters cited the precedent from March 2013:

  • "Please advise the submitter to draw the sparks as groupings of roundels one and two, not two and one. This depiction of sparks two and one may not be registerable without period evidence in the future." [Jan Langhe ten Wald, A-Æthelmearc]

They also noted that in November 2015 that warning wasn't repeated, as the decision simply stated:

  • "Please advise the submitter to draw the sparks as groupings of roundels one and two, not two and one." [Evangeline Bajolet, November 2015 ,A-Calontir].

Gerard Brault's "Early Blazon" defines "Estencelé" as "powdered with sparks, i.e. clusters of three or four small dots". Although the modern depiction he gives has the estencely as the generally accepted one and two depiction, he goes on further to cite "Medieval practice tolerated considerable diversity in verbal as well as pictorial blazon". Thus it seems difficult to consider it as a firm endorsement of a single possible depiction for estencely fields. Although both he and the cited "Scintillatum Auro: The Spark in Armory" by H. Stanford London mention that it might have been in some cases a form of diapering it was also in cases specifically blazoned and can't be considered accidental. Of note, the figure 2 in "Scintillatum Auro: The Spark in Armory" has the sparks in various orientations.

Furthermore, we can see in a period armorial that period heraldic artists were not necessarily particular about maintaining a constant orientation for sparks as can be seen on the folio 144r of the Armorial de Gilles le Bouvier, dit Berry. (http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b85285803/f295.item.zoom ).

Based on the variability of period depiction, we are declaring the two and one depiction of sparks registerable, with a note that the one and two arrangement of sparks would appear more likely. No difference will be granted for the orientation of the sparks and that orientation will not be blazoned. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2016/06/16-06cl.html

Registerability:[edit | edit source]

(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)

Conflict:[edit | edit source]

June 2016 CL - 1-and-2 vs 2-and-1[edit | edit source]

This month, once again, a submission came up for discussion with an estencelly field where the sparks were grouped in two and one configuration rather than one and two... No difference will be granted for the orientation of the sparks and that orientation will not be blazoned. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2016/06/16-06cl.html

Identifiability:[edit | edit source]

Collected Precedents:[edit | edit source]


Ordinary:[edit | edit source]

(includes estencely)