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* History of Aberconwy Abbey per The Cistercians in Yorkshire website, https://www.dhi.ac.uk/cistercians/abbeys/aberconwy.php
* History of Aberconwy Abbey per The Cistercians in Yorkshire website, https://www.dhi.ac.uk/cistercians/abbeys/aberconwy.php


* The Register and Chronicle of the Abbey of Aberconway, Sir Henry Ellis, digital book, transcription of Latin, uses the spelling Aberconwey, and Conwey - https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.32000007373592;view=1up;seq=7
* The Register and Chronicle of the Abbey of Aberconway, Sir Henry Ellis, digital book, transcription of Latin, uses the spelling '''Aberconwey, and Conwey''' - https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.32000007373592;view=1up;seq=7
 


* ''KING JOHN AND THE CISTERCIANS IN WALES'' PhD Thesis - https://orca.cf.ac.uk/43581/1/2013jenkinsjhphd.pdf
* ''KING JOHN AND THE CISTERCIANS IN WALES'' PhD Thesis - https://orca.cf.ac.uk/43581/1/2013jenkinsjhphd.pdf

Revision as of 14:00, 7 February 2019

Sáerlaith Conwy

  • Middle Irish Gaelic given name Sáerlaith and the Welsh locative byname Conwy.

Sáerlaith


Byname/Surname

  • Conwy castle - there exists a petition mentioning Conwy castle, by this spelling, dated to 1378-1390
  • Apparently, Edward I started building Conwy Castle in 1283. Before that, there was a monastery at that place, which

historians call Aberconwy (established in the late 1100s per Wikipedia). This was on the bank of the Conwy River.

  • Need a date earlier than 1269 to go with Saerlaith, unless find a later date than 969 for Saerlaith.




  • KING JOHN AND THE CISTERCIANS IN WALES PhD Thesis - https://orca.cf.ac.uk/43581/1/2013jenkinsjhphd.pdf
  • King John’s 1202 charter to Aberconwy abbey ‘is unique in English royal charters for Welsh foundations’, before then seemingly suggesting it was issued as a matter of routine, without explaining how a ‘unique’ charter could be routinely issued.74 Even Rhys Hays in his History of Aberconway Abbey says that it was surprising this 1202 charter was issued before again suggesting, ‘likely it was a matter of routine’.75


  • "Unnamed abbot: in 1216 an unnamed abbot of Aberconwy was excused from attending the annual General Chapter at Cîteaux given his infirmity." - Monastic Wales website, http://www.monasticwales.org/person/164


Combination

  • MI Gaelic and Welsh are a compatible lingual mix per SENA Appendix C
  • MI Gaelic and Welsh are not in the same language family, so elements need to be within 300 years of each other, ibid