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===From Pelican: No More SCA-Compatibility===
On the May 2008 Cover Letter, we ruled:
> Therefore, as of the May 2009 decisions meetings, we declare that no new name elements or name patterns will be ruled SCA-compatible, that all names previously ruled SCA-compatible are no longer SCA-compatible and that in order for them to be registered, documentation meeting the same standards as for non-SCA-compatible names will be required.
This ruling went into effect with this, the May 2009 Pelican meeting.
[[http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/05/09-05cl.html]]
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==Registerability:==  
==Registerability:==  
===<month> <year>: summary===
===From Pelican: No More SCA-Compatibility===
On the May 2008 Cover Letter, we ruled:
> Therefore, as of the May 2009 decisions meetings, we declare that no new name elements or name patterns will be ruled SCA-compatible, that all names previously ruled SCA-compatible are no longer SCA-compatible and that in order for them to be registered, documentation meeting the same standards as for non-SCA-compatible names will be required.
This ruling went into effect with this, the May 2009 Pelican meeting. [but see more recent discussion re: the Wanderer]
[[http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/05/09-05cl.html]]
 
=== Compiled Name Precedents: SCA-compatible===
{| class="wikitable"
|François la Flamme
|2002.02
|The English byname ''the Lost'' has been ruled SCA compatible. Use of an element which is only SCA compatible is a weirdness. ['''Ælfric the Lost''', [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2002/02/02-02lar.html 02/02], R-An Tir]
|-
|Elsbeth Anne Roth
|2001.07
|... we are reluctantly making the byname ''the Lost'' SCA compatible. ['''Jordan the Lost''', [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2001/07/01-07lar.html 07/01], A-Calontir]
|-
|Elsbeth Anne Roth
|1999.07
|[''Corwynn the Lost''] Although names of the form ''X the Lost'' has been registered in the past, English bynames were not formed from adjectival past participles, and previous Laurels have been returning names for that reason. Da'ud ibn Auda, in the September, 1994 LoAR, wrote: "[Modifying 'the Brown-eyed'] English bynames were not formed from adjectival past participles. We have substituted the documented form." Given that the name already has a weirdness with the use of ''Corwynn'', which is undocumented but SCA compatible, we are not willing to give the byname the benefit of the doubt. The name must be returned barring documentation that such bynames were found. ['''Corwynn the Lost''', [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/1999/07/lar.html 07/99], R-Atenveldt]
|}
http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/Compatible.html


==Conflict:==
==Conflict:==
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* The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - in Compiled Names Precedents above
* The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - in Compiled Names Precedents above
* The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - in Compiled Names Precedents above
* The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - in Compiled Names Precedents above
[[Category:Names]] [[Category:Need Work]]

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Precedents:[edit | edit source]

  • Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[1]]
  • Morsulus Heralds Website - [[2]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents)
  • Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.

Registerability:[edit | edit source]

From Pelican: No More SCA-Compatibility[edit | edit source]

On the May 2008 Cover Letter, we ruled: > Therefore, as of the May 2009 decisions meetings, we declare that no new name elements or name patterns will be ruled SCA-compatible, that all names previously ruled SCA-compatible are no longer SCA-compatible and that in order for them to be registered, documentation meeting the same standards as for non-SCA-compatible names will be required. This ruling went into effect with this, the May 2009 Pelican meeting. [but see more recent discussion re: the Wanderer] [[3]]

Compiled Name Precedents: SCA-compatible[edit | edit source]

François la Flamme 2002.02 The English byname the Lost has been ruled SCA compatible. Use of an element which is only SCA compatible is a weirdness. [Ælfric the Lost02/02, R-An Tir]
Elsbeth Anne Roth 2001.07 ... we are reluctantly making the byname the Lost SCA compatible. [Jordan the Lost07/01, A-Calontir]
Elsbeth Anne Roth 1999.07 [Corwynn the Lost] Although names of the form X the Lost has been registered in the past, English bynames were not formed from adjectival past participles, and previous Laurels have been returning names for that reason. Da'ud ibn Auda, in the September, 1994 LoAR, wrote: "[Modifying 'the Brown-eyed'] English bynames were not formed from adjectival past participles. We have substituted the documented form." Given that the name already has a weirdness with the use of Corwynn, which is undocumented but SCA compatible, we are not willing to give the byname the benefit of the doubt. The name must be returned barring documentation that such bynames were found. [Corwynn the Lost07/99, R-Atenveldt]

http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/Compatible.html

Conflict:[edit | edit source]

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Collected Precedents:[edit | edit source]