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'''From Pelican: No More SCA-Compatibility'''
On the May 2008 Cover Letter, we ruled:
> Therefore, as of the May 2009 decisions meetings, we declare that no new name elements or name patterns will be ruled SCA-compatible, that all names previously ruled SCA-compatible are no longer SCA-compatible and that in order for them to be registered, documentation meeting the same standards as for non-SCA-compatible names will be required.
This ruling went into effect with this, the May 2009 Pelican meeting.
[[http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/05/09-05cl.html]]
'''WARNING: Do not cite this page as a reference. This page is on this wikispace only to make the content "searchable" and easier to find. If you find the information you seek here, go to the original sources to verify the information and use them for your documentation.'''
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==Registerability:==  
==Registerability:==  
From the <month> <year> LoAR:
 
===May 2008 Cover Letter - From Pelican: No More SCA-Compatibility===
> Therefore, as of the May 2009 decisions meetings, we declare that no new name elements or name patterns will be ruled SCA-compatible, that all names previously ruled SCA-compatible are no longer SCA-compatible and that in order for them to be registered, documentation meeting the same standards as for non-SCA-compatible names will be required.
This ruling went into effect with this, the May 2009 Pelican meeting.
[[http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/05/09-05cl.html]]
 
 


==Conflict:==
==Conflict:==
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==Collected Precedents:==  
==Collected Precedents:==  
* '''Compiled Names Precedents''' (current through May 2004, as of 10/2016) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/index.html
* '''Compiled Names Precedents''' (current through May 2004, as of 10/2016) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/index.html
http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/Compatible.html
{| class="wikitable"
| colspan="3" |'''Fiona'''
|-
|François la Flamme
|2002.06
|Note: ''Fiona'' was ruled SCA compatible in April of 1981 and upheld in the December 1995 cover letter. [Fiona Ann the Fair, 06/2002, A-Atenveldt]
|-
|François la Flamme
|2001.11
|''Fiona'' was ruled SCA compatible in April of 1981 and upheld in the December 1995 cover letter. ['''Fiona Harpar''', [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2001/11/01-11lar.html 11/01], A-Æthelmearc]
|-
|François la Flamme
|2001.10
|The given name ''Fiona'' has been ruled SCA-compatible. ['''Aislinn Fiona of Rumm''', [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2001/08/01-08lar.html 08/01], R-An Tir]
|-
|Elsbeth Anne Roth
|2001.07
|''Fiona'' is SCA compatible. ['''Fiona of Artemisia''', [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2001/07/01-07lar.html 07/01], A-Artemisia]
|-
|Elsbeth Anne Roth
|2001.07
|Submitted as ''Fionna McClancy'', the given name has only been ruled as SCA compatible in the spelling ''Fiona''. We have changed the name accordingly. ['''Fiona McClancy''', [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2001/07/01-07lar.html 07/01], A-Calontir]
|-
|Elsbeth Anne Roth
|1999.08
|''Fiona'' is SCA compatible. ['''Fiona MacLeod''', [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/1999/08/lar.html 08/99], A-Atenveldt]
|-
|Da'ud ibn Auda (2nd tenure, 2nd year)
|1995.12
|What Names Are 'SCA-Compatible'?... Having found that my own baronial herald was slightly confused on the subject of 'SCA-compatibility', I thought that it might be helpful to list the status of some of the most common names that have been considered under this rubric. The post-period English name Fiona, which is not to be confused with the period Irish name Fíona (earlier Fíne), has long been considered 'SCA-compatible'. So have the names Cer(r)idwen (Ker(r)idwen), Rhiannon, Bronwen, Branwen, Rowen(a), and Rhonwen, all of which may be found in Welsh myth and legend, but none of which seems to have been in actual use by real people in our period. Guendolen/Gwendolen, a name based on a misreading of a masculine name and attested only in fiction, was declared 'SCA-compatible' in the 8/95 Cover Letter; more modern spellings of the name were disallowed. Brian(n)a, a modern feminization of Brian that follows no known period model, was declared 'SCA-compatible' in the 12/95 Cover Letter.
|-
|Da'ud ibn Auda (2nd year, 1st tenure)
|1992.02
|[Ffiona] "Given the acceptance (admittedly, on a special basis) of Fiona, we did not feel that we could reasonably disallow this variant." (LoAR 2/92 p.8)
|-
|Baldwin of Erebor
|1985.12.29
|Corwin and Fiona... have been registered a dozen or more times over a span of five or more years, many of them recent. Corwin is a surname being used as a given name. Fiona is an out-of-period feminization of a period masculine given name. Both names occur in modern fantasy stories, and so tend to be accepted without question by the membership of the SCA; and neither has been explicitly barred by Laurel (although some restrictions have been placed on Corwin). [BoE, cvr ltr, 29 Dec 85, p.5]
|-
|Baldwin of Erebor
|1985.04.14
|There are some twenty Megans, Meghans, and Meggans already registered. As with Fiona and Corwin, I consider the name to be so much a part of SCA culture as to be acceptable, even if it is recent coinage. [BoE, 14 Apr 85, p.4]
|-
|Wilhelm von Schlüssel
|1981.04.20
|Although the name Fiona is out of period, we have three uses of it already registered. Unless the College objects, I will let three previous registrations of a name in the SCA constitute period usage in the SCA, so long as the name does not violate any of the other rules. WVS [40] [LoAR 20 Apr 81], p. 5
|}




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* The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - in Compiled Names Precedents above
* The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - in Compiled Names Precedents above
* The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - in Compiled Names Precedents above
* The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - in Compiled Names Precedents above
[[Category:Need Work]]

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Period Forms:[edit | edit source]

  • Name - type of name (eg. English feminine give name), date, source.


Other Potential Sources:[edit | edit source]




Precedents:[edit | edit source]

  • Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[1]]
  • Morsulus Heralds Website - [[2]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents)
  • Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.

Registerability:[edit | edit source]

May 2008 Cover Letter - From Pelican: No More SCA-Compatibility[edit | edit source]

> Therefore, as of the May 2009 decisions meetings, we declare that no new name elements or name patterns will be ruled SCA-compatible, that all names previously ruled SCA-compatible are no longer SCA-compatible and that in order for them to be registered, documentation meeting the same standards as for non-SCA-compatible names will be required. This ruling went into effect with this, the May 2009 Pelican meeting. [[3]]


Conflict:[edit | edit source]

From the <month> <year> LoAR:

Collected Precedents:[edit | edit source]


http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/Compatible.html

Fiona
François la Flamme 2002.06 Note: Fiona was ruled SCA compatible in April of 1981 and upheld in the December 1995 cover letter. [Fiona Ann the Fair, 06/2002, A-Atenveldt]
François la Flamme 2001.11 Fiona was ruled SCA compatible in April of 1981 and upheld in the December 1995 cover letter. [Fiona Harpar, 11/01, A-Æthelmearc]
François la Flamme 2001.10 The given name Fiona has been ruled SCA-compatible. [Aislinn Fiona of Rumm, 08/01, R-An Tir]
Elsbeth Anne Roth 2001.07 Fiona is SCA compatible. [Fiona of Artemisia, 07/01, A-Artemisia]
Elsbeth Anne Roth 2001.07 Submitted as Fionna McClancy, the given name has only been ruled as SCA compatible in the spelling Fiona. We have changed the name accordingly. [Fiona McClancy, 07/01, A-Calontir]
Elsbeth Anne Roth 1999.08 Fiona is SCA compatible. [Fiona MacLeod, 08/99, A-Atenveldt]
Da'ud ibn Auda (2nd tenure, 2nd year) 1995.12 What Names Are 'SCA-Compatible'?... Having found that my own baronial herald was slightly confused on the subject of 'SCA-compatibility', I thought that it might be helpful to list the status of some of the most common names that have been considered under this rubric. The post-period English name Fiona, which is not to be confused with the period Irish name Fíona (earlier Fíne), has long been considered 'SCA-compatible'. So have the names Cer(r)idwen (Ker(r)idwen), Rhiannon, Bronwen, Branwen, Rowen(a), and Rhonwen, all of which may be found in Welsh myth and legend, but none of which seems to have been in actual use by real people in our period. Guendolen/Gwendolen, a name based on a misreading of a masculine name and attested only in fiction, was declared 'SCA-compatible' in the 8/95 Cover Letter; more modern spellings of the name were disallowed. Brian(n)a, a modern feminization of Brian that follows no known period model, was declared 'SCA-compatible' in the 12/95 Cover Letter.
Da'ud ibn Auda (2nd year, 1st tenure) 1992.02 [Ffiona] "Given the acceptance (admittedly, on a special basis) of Fiona, we did not feel that we could reasonably disallow this variant." (LoAR 2/92 p.8)
Baldwin of Erebor 1985.12.29 Corwin and Fiona... have been registered a dozen or more times over a span of five or more years, many of them recent. Corwin is a surname being used as a given name. Fiona is an out-of-period feminization of a period masculine given name. Both names occur in modern fantasy stories, and so tend to be accepted without question by the membership of the SCA; and neither has been explicitly barred by Laurel (although some restrictions have been placed on Corwin). [BoE, cvr ltr, 29 Dec 85, p.5]
Baldwin of Erebor 1985.04.14 There are some twenty Megans, Meghans, and Meggans already registered. As with Fiona and Corwin, I consider the name to be so much a part of SCA culture as to be acceptable, even if it is recent coinage. [BoE, 14 Apr 85, p.4]
Wilhelm von Schlüssel 1981.04.20 Although the name Fiona is out of period, we have three uses of it already registered. Unless the College objects, I will let three previous registrations of a name in the SCA constitute period usage in the SCA, so long as the name does not violate any of the other rules. WVS [40] [LoAR 20 Apr 81], p. 5


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