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There are several tinctures that are actually stylized patterns, classified as ''furs''. These include:
There are several tinctures that are actually stylized patterns, classified as ''furs''. These include:
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{| class="wikitable
| ''Ermine'' - argent with "tails" (originally from an ermine's hide) sable  
| ''Ermine''  
| ''Counter-ermine''(sometimes called ''Ermines'') sable with "tails" argent
| ''Counter-ermine''
| ''Erminois'' -  Or with "tails" sable  
| ''Erminois''
| ''Pean'' [[http://heraldry.sca.org/primer/tinctures.html#sable sable]] with "tails" Or
| ''Pean''
|-
| argent with "tails" (originally from an ermine's hide) sable  
| sable with "tails" argent
| Or with "tails" sable  
| sable with "tails" Or
|-
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| http://www.sofyalarus.info/heraldicart/HeraldicPrimer/ermine.gif
| http://www.sofyalarus.info/heraldicart/HeraldicPrimer/ermine.gif
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| * ''Vair''. interlocking "bells" (originally squirrel hides) alternately argent and azure
| ''Vair''
| * ''Potent''. interlocking "T's" alternately argent and azure
| ''Potent''
|-
| interlocking "bells" (originally squirrel hides) alternately argent and azure
| interlocking "T's" alternately argent and azure
|-
|-
| http://www.sofyalarus.info/heraldicart/HeraldicPrimer/vair.gif  
| http://www.sofyalarus.info/heraldicart/HeraldicPrimer/vair.gif  
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=Precedents:</span>=  
=Precedents:=  
Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html<br>
Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html<br>
Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)<br>
Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)<br>
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===April 2012 - Tinctures and Other Descriptive Words in Order Names and Heraldic Titles:===  
===April 2012 - Tinctures and Other Descriptive Words in Order Names and Heraldic Titles:===  
<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">In January 2012, we asked commenters to consider the current precedent regarding the use of color words in order names. In February 2003, Pelican ruled that "no evidence has been found that heraldic tinctures (rather than common color terms such as bleu) were used in order names." Since that time, our knowledge of period order names and heraldic titles has expanded considerably, in large part due to articles like my "Heraldic Titles from the Middle Ages and Renaissance" (found at http:''medievalscotland.org/jes/HeraldicTitlesSCA/index.shtml) and my "Medieval Secular Order Names" (found at http://medievalscotland.org/jes/OrderNames/ or at http:''heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/order/new/).</span>
In January 2012, we asked commenters to consider the current precedent regarding the use of color words in order names. In February 2003, Pelican ruled that "no evidence has been found that heraldic tinctures (rather than common color terms such as bleu) were used in order names." Since that time, our knowledge of period order names and heraldic titles has expanded considerably, in large part due to articles like my "Heraldic Titles from the Middle Ages and Renaissance" (found at http://medievalscotland.org/jes/HeraldicTitlesSCA/index.shtml) and my "Medieval Secular Order Names" (found at http://medievalscotland.org/jes/OrderNames/ or at http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/order/new/).
<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">The color terms used in order names and heraldic titles are summarized in the May 2009 Cover Letter. They are the everyday terms for heraldic tinctures, mostly in French, but also in German, English, and Spanish.
 
The color terms used in order names and heraldic titles are summarized in the May 2009 Cover Letter. They are the everyday terms for heraldic tinctures, mostly in French, but also in German, English, and Spanish.
Several French terms are identical to the terms used for heraldic tinctures, including ''vert'', ''or'', and ''argent'' (which is found in sign names but not order names). This means that half the colors used in order names (vert, or and argent) are at least sometimes identical to the heraldic terms. Even ''vaire'' is found in French inn signs. Similarly, early blazon seems to have sometimes used the everyday color terms ''rouge'' and ''noir''. Given the variability in the use of heraldic and everyday terms, and the confusion this causes for submitters and commenters, we are hereby allowing the use of heraldic color terms in order names as well as the everyday terms. However, no convincing evidence has been presented for the use of non-heraldic color names, including the names for particular shades of a color, like ''scarlet'' or ''crimson''.
Several French terms are identical to the terms used for heraldic tinctures, including ''vert'', ''or'', and ''argent'' (which is found in sign names but not order names). This means that half the colors used in order names (vert, or and argent) are at least sometimes identical to the heraldic terms. Even ''vaire'' is found in French inn signs. Similarly, early blazon seems to have sometimes used the everyday color terms ''rouge'' and ''noir''. Given the variability in the use of heraldic and everyday terms, and the confusion this causes for submitters and commenters, we are hereby allowing the use of heraldic color terms in order names as well as the everyday terms. However, no convincing evidence has been presented for the use of non-heraldic color names, including the names for particular shades of a color, like ''scarlet'' or ''crimson''.
There was relatively little commentary on the use of terms for posture and orientation. As such, we will not at this time rule on whether the patterns found for such terms in inn sign names should be extended to order names and heraldic titles. The question will be revisited when a relevant submission appears.
There was relatively little commentary on the use of terms for posture and orientation. As such, we will not at this time rule on whether the patterns found for such terms in inn sign names should be extended to order names and heraldic titles. The question will be revisited when a relevant submission appears.
http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/04/12-04cl.html
http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/04/12-04cl.html


===June 2011 - multiply-tinctured group:===  
===June 2011 - multiply-tinctured group:===  
[[#162]]Lillian atte Valeye. Device. Or, in bend a fleur-de-lys inverted sable between a fleur-de-lys vert and a fleur-de-lys purpure, in chief three bells sable.
[#162] Lillian atte Valeye. Device. Or, in bend a fleur-de-lys inverted sable between a fleur-de-lys vert and a fleur-de-lys purpure, in chief three bells sable.
This device is returned for multiple reasons... The device is also returned for being two steps from period practice, formerly called 'weirdnesses'. One step was mentioned on the Letter of Intent:
This device is returned for multiple reasons... The device is also returned for being two steps from period practice, formerly called 'weirdnesses'. One step was mentioned on the Letter of Intent:
> Questions were raised regarding having...three roundels in three different tinctures. While were unable, in a quick look, to find an example of the same charge in three different tinctures, the Dictionary of British Armory, 2 shows the arms of Milo Fitzwalter of Glouster as ''Gules, two bends the upper Or and lower argent'', making the use of the same change in three different tinctures only one weirdness [LoAR February 1998].
* Questions were raised regarding having...three roundels in three different tinctures. While were unable, in a quick look, to find an example of the same charge in three different tinctures, the Dictionary of British Armory, 2 shows the arms of Milo Fitzwalter of Glouster as ''Gules, two bends the upper Or and lower argent'', making the use of the same change in three different tinctures only one weirdness [LoAR February 1998].
> http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/06/11-06lar.html
http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/06/11-06lar.html


===October 1998 - furs as plain tinctures:===  
===October 1998 - furs as plain tinctures:===  
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Glossary of Terms[edit | edit source]

http://heraldry.sca.org/coagloss.html

Tincture:[edit | edit source]

A tincture is one of the seven standard hues used in Society armory, or a fur. The tinctures are the colors azure, gules, purpure, sable, and vert and the metals argent and Or. Furs include the ermined furs and vair, potent, scaly, papelonny, and their variations. See also Color, Ermined Tinctures, Furs, Metal, Proper Tincture, Rule of Tincture, Contrast

Metal:[edit | edit source]

In Society heraldry, the metals are argent and Or. Furs that use metals as underlying tinctures, such as ermine and erminois, are treated as metals for contrast. See also Color, Furs, Tinctures.

Neutral Tincture:[edit | edit source]

A term used to refer to fields or charges equally divided of a color and a metal. Elements that are neutral are generally considered to have good contrast with colors and metals so long as they do not share any tincture. For example, a field per pale sable and argent has good contrast with a bordure gules, but not with a bordure sable. See also Color, Furs, Metal, Tincture.

Or:[edit | edit source]

In blazon the tincture yellow or gold. By convention, the tincture Or is capitalized in SCA blazons.

http://heraldry.sca.org/coagloss.html

SENA A.3.A.2. Fieldless Designs:[edit | edit source]

A special subset of fieldless designs is tinctureless designs. These designs are those which do not specify a tincture for the charge or background, such as the English badge, (Tinctureless) A pheon. These designs may only be registered as seals for the use of principal heralds of kingdoms, although some earlier registrations to individuals exist.


A Heraldic Primer: Tinctures [old version][edit | edit source]

http://heraldry.sca.org/primer/tinctures.html (new version - New Heraldic Primer (aka Heraldry for Non-Heralds) - http://heraldry.sca.org/armory/newprimer/h4f2.shtml )

Basic Tinctures[edit | edit source]

The heraldic palette consist of seven basic tinctures: white/silver, blue, red, yellow/gold, purple, black, and green. But these names are never used in heraldry. Instead, special heraldic names are used:

Argent (= white or silver) Azure (=blue) Gules (=red) Or (=yellow or gold)
argent.gif azure.gif gules.gif or.gif
Purpure (=purple) Sable (=black) *Vert (=green)
purpure.gif sable.gif vert.gif

Colors and Metals[edit | edit source]

The basic tinctures are classified according to whether they are colors (dark) or metals (light).

  • Or and argent are metals.
  • Azure, gules, purpure, sable, and vert are colors.

Furs[edit | edit source]

There are several tinctures that are actually stylized patterns, classified as furs. These include:

Ermine Counter-ermine Erminois Pean
argent with "tails" (originally from an ermine's hide) sable sable with "tails" argent Or with "tails" sable sable with "tails" Or
ermine.gif ermines.gif erminois.gif pean.gif
Vair Potent
interlocking "bells" (originally squirrel hides) alternately argent and azure interlocking "T's" alternately argent and azure
vair.gif potent.gif

Miscellaneous Tinctures/Stains[edit | edit source]

The following tinctures are seen uncommonly, especially in heraldry before 1600. These tinctures are not suitable for registration in SCA Heraldry<. Their usage, however, is common enough in modern mundane heraldry to warrant mention here.

  • bleu-celeste(=sky-blue),
  • brunatre(=brown),
  • cendree(=cinder-grey),
  • murrey(=mulberry/purplish red),
  • rose(=pink),
  • sanguine(=dark blood-red), and
  • tenné (=tawny orange).

Most of the miscellaneous tinctures are classified as stains, that is, neither color nor metal nor fur. http://home.comcast.net/~cwest222/heraldicprimer/tinctures.html

Rule of Tincture aka Color on Color Rule[edit | edit source]

http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/lessons/lesson01.html

Simply, the Rule of Tincture says that "good contrast" must exist between the field and the charges upon it, or between a charge and the charges on it. Good contrast exists between:

  • A metal and a color
  • An element equally divided of a color and a metal and any other element, provided identifiability is maintained
  • A color and a charge blazoned proper that is predominantly light
  • A metal and a charge blazoned proper that is predominantly dark


Computer Color and Tincture Mapping[edit | edit source]

File:ColorChartv2.jpg


Precedents:[edit | edit source]

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html
Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)
Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.

Definition:[edit | edit source]

Registerability:[edit | edit source]

(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)

April 2012 - Tinctures and Other Descriptive Words in Order Names and Heraldic Titles:[edit | edit source]

In January 2012, we asked commenters to consider the current precedent regarding the use of color words in order names. In February 2003, Pelican ruled that "no evidence has been found that heraldic tinctures (rather than common color terms such as bleu) were used in order names." Since that time, our knowledge of period order names and heraldic titles has expanded considerably, in large part due to articles like my "Heraldic Titles from the Middle Ages and Renaissance" (found at http://medievalscotland.org/jes/HeraldicTitlesSCA/index.shtml) and my "Medieval Secular Order Names" (found at http://medievalscotland.org/jes/OrderNames/ or at http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/order/new/).

The color terms used in order names and heraldic titles are summarized in the May 2009 Cover Letter. They are the everyday terms for heraldic tinctures, mostly in French, but also in German, English, and Spanish. Several French terms are identical to the terms used for heraldic tinctures, including vert, or, and argent (which is found in sign names but not order names). This means that half the colors used in order names (vert, or and argent) are at least sometimes identical to the heraldic terms. Even vaire is found in French inn signs. Similarly, early blazon seems to have sometimes used the everyday color terms rouge and noir. Given the variability in the use of heraldic and everyday terms, and the confusion this causes for submitters and commenters, we are hereby allowing the use of heraldic color terms in order names as well as the everyday terms. However, no convincing evidence has been presented for the use of non-heraldic color names, including the names for particular shades of a color, like scarlet or crimson.

There was relatively little commentary on the use of terms for posture and orientation. As such, we will not at this time rule on whether the patterns found for such terms in inn sign names should be extended to order names and heraldic titles. The question will be revisited when a relevant submission appears. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/04/12-04cl.html

June 2011 - multiply-tinctured group:[edit | edit source]

[#162] Lillian atte Valeye. Device. Or, in bend a fleur-de-lys inverted sable between a fleur-de-lys vert and a fleur-de-lys purpure, in chief three bells sable. This device is returned for multiple reasons... The device is also returned for being two steps from period practice, formerly called 'weirdnesses'. One step was mentioned on the Letter of Intent:

  • Questions were raised regarding having...three roundels in three different tinctures. While were unable, in a quick look, to find an example of the same charge in three different tinctures, the Dictionary of British Armory, 2 shows the arms of Milo Fitzwalter of Glouster as Gules, two bends the upper Or and lower argent, making the use of the same change in three different tinctures only one weirdness [LoAR February 1998].

http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/06/11-06lar.html

October 1998 - furs as plain tinctures:[edit | edit source]

"This is being returned because Gules, ermined Or. is a plain tincture, and we do not register plain tinctures." October 1998 LoAR

March 1998 - variously tinctured spots panthers only:[edit | edit source]

"Caintigern of Ainsley. Device change. Vert, semy of bells Or, a cat sejant gardant argent spotted of various tinctures. The use of multi colored spots appear to be unique to the heraldic panther in period. Just as we do no longer allow the use of unicorn horns on random animals, neither do we allow the use of variously tinctured spots." http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/1998/03/lar.html

February 1998 - multiply-tinctured group:[edit | edit source]

Pyotr Ivanovich Drozinski the Fool. Per chevron argent and vert, three roundels one and two gules, azure and vert, issuant from base a tree blasted argent. "Questions were raised regarding having the three roundels in three different tinctures. While we were unable, in a quick look, to find an example of the same charge in three different tinctures, the Dictionary of British Armory, 2 shows the arms of Milo Fitzwalter of Glouster as Gules, two bends the upper Or and lower argent., making the use of the same charge in three different tinctures only one weirdness." http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/1998/02/lar.html

February 1996 - single-tincture devices:[edit | edit source]

Ulf of Sjaelland. Device change. Quarterly gules and argent. - "Brachet has proposed that we not register this item "because it is "a simple field". We have for a long time refused to register simple fields, allowing them to be used for other purposes such as livery and simple colored banners." In fact, however, the College has only refused to register fields consisting of a plain or single tincture (e.g., Sable, or Ermine. "While the principle that a plain (i.e., undivided) tinctured field was not protected was written into the old rules, this principle existed by precedent long before it was added to the rules." (Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane, LoAR 28 May 90, p. 6) "Society tradition does not protect the ermine field of Brittany unless it appears in the context of quartering or attached to a name which is strongly redolent of Brittany." (Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane, LoAR 28 Feb 87, p. 2) Indeed, the provisions in the Rules for difference of "field only" or the newer "field primary" armory make it clear that restricting armory consisting of a divided field was never the intent of the College." February 1996 LoAR


Conflict:[edit | edit source]

Identifiability:[edit | edit source]

Collected Precedents:[edit | edit source]