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''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">'''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.'''</span>''
''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">'''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.'''</span>''


==<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Definition/Defining Instance:]]<u>'''Definition:'''</u></span>==  
==Definition:==  


===<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';">July 2015 - The Grapes of Wreath (grapes proper):</span>===  
===<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';">July 2015 - The Grapes of Wreath (grapes proper):</span>===  
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(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)
(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)


==<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Conflict:]]<u>'''Conflict:'''</u></span>==  
==Conflict:==  




==<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Identifiability:]]<u>'''Identifiability:'''</u></span>==  
==Identifiability:==  




==<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">'''<u>Collected Precedents:</u>'''</span>==  
==Collected Precedents:==  
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008)</span>'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;"> - </span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">[[http:''heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#FRUIT|FRUIT]]</span>, <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#FRUITNut|FRUIT -- Nut]], [[http:''heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#POMEGRANATE|POMEGRANATE]]</span>
* 2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory2.html Collected Armory Precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) -</span>'''
* 1st Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html Collected Armory Precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) -</span>'''
* 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/goodbye.cgi?url=http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/armoryprec.html Collected Armory Precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) -</span>'''
* The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/shauna/armory.html Collected Armory Precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) -</span>'''
* 1st Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/francois/wreath.html Collected Armory Precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) -</span>'''
* The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elsbeth/armory.html Collected Armory Precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) -</span>'''
* The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/jaeprec.html Single HTML Document]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) -</span>'''
* 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) -
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -</span>'''
** [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/volume3.html the 1st part (Nov 1993 - June 1994)] and
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) -</span>'''
** [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/daudIITOC.html the 2nd part (July 1994 - June 1996)]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) -</span>'''
* The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/bruce/ Collected precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) -</span>'''
* 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) -</span>'''
**  [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1toc.html the 1st year (June 1990 - June 1991)] and
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) -</span>'''
**  [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1btoc.html the 2nd year (July 1991 - June 1992)]
* The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/alisoun/AMETOP.html Collected Precedents]
* The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/baldwin.html Single HTML Document]
* The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/wilhelm/volume3.html Collected Precedents]
* The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/karina/volume2.html Collected Precedents]
* The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/early/volume1.html Collected Precedents]


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==<u>'''In the Ordinary'''</u>:==  
==<u>'''In the Ordinary'''</u>:==  
* [[http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_desc.cgi?p=FRUIT%2dAPPLE|Fruit - Apple]]
* [[http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_desc.cgi?p=FRUIT%2dAPPLE|Fruit - Apple]]

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Illustrations:[edit | edit source]

Period:[edit | edit source]

Leeks, turnips:[edit | edit source]

Insignia Zacharias
Insignia urbium, 1550, BSB270, f339r, Leeks (cant) Zacharias Bartsch Wappen Buch, 1567, turnips and arrows/demi-arrows

Grape, pine cone:[edit | edit source]

Siebmacher_p199_Zoller_grapes.jpg https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11020908_10207046078136609_458026375092371987_n.jpg?oh=70982c6c6fe9ac7d95311720d1e9f443&oe=55C215DF
Siebmacher 1605, Plate 199, die Zoller, grapes BSB manuscript, Italian 1550-55, Gagiona, pine cone

Modern:[edit | edit source]

Pictorial Dictionary of SCA Heraldry, 3rd edition:[edit | edit source]

Vector Graphics:[edit | edit source]


Brickbat's Armorial Stash[edit | edit source]

Pennsic Traceable Art Project:[edit | edit source]


Other articles on fruit:[edit | edit source]

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Sources:[edit | edit source]

Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/ Archive of St. Gabriel reports - [[3]] Laurel Armory Articles - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/armory_articles.html

New Heraldic Primer (Heraldry for Non-Heralds) - http://heraldry.sca.org/armory/newprimer/ Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry (PicDic), 3rd Edition - @http://mistholme.com/pictorial-dictionary-of-heraldry (in progress) Period Armorials

Parker's Heraldry - http://karlwilcox.com/parker/ Riestap's Armorial Général - //http:''www.euraldic.com/lasu/bl/bl_a_aa.html


Precedents:[edit | edit source]

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[4]] Morsulus Heralds Website - [[5]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents) Restatement Wiki - [[6]] (restatements of Precedents) Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.

Definition:[edit | edit source]

July 2015 - The Grapes of Wreath (grapes proper):[edit | edit source]

The question has come up recently and although this should appear shortly in the new and improved Glossary of Terms, grapes proper are defined as grapes purpure. If they are slipped (and leaved) that portion is vert. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/07/15-07cl.html#4

February 2015 - no "proper" pumpkins:[edit | edit source]

#163Daya Speyererin. Device. Or, two reed pens inverted in saltire sable between four New World pumpkins proper. This device is returned for using a proper charge that does not have a defined tincture. SENA A3B1 states "Proper is a term used for a charge in its "natural" or "standard" tincture." Although orange is a natural tincture for some pumpkins, Vexillum cited Mary Miley Theobald's article "Some Pumpkins! Halloween and Pumpkins in Colonial America" (http://www.history.org/Foundation/journal/Autumn09/pumpkins.cfm), which says "What they had were pumpkins- large and small, round and oval, warty and smooth, squat and misshapen, orange, yellow, and green, far more varieties of the fruit than we see today." Thus, the idea that the pumpkins known to period Europeans do not have a single default tincture and thus "proper" cannot apply. We are therefore overturning the precedent from September 2010, that defined a pumpkin proper as "orange with a green stem". We cannot reblazon these charges as being tenné, as we do not register the stains, so orange is only registerable when "proper" only describes an orange charge. There would be a step from period practice for the use of New World pumpkins

February 2006 - turnips proper:[edit | edit source]

"Proper for a turnip is the top half of the turnip purpure and the bottom half argent (with a somewhat wavy line of division) with vert leaves; neither the purpure nor the argent should predominate. The argent tip on a purpure turnip need not be blazoned, nor does a purpure cap on an argent turnip as both are considered artistic details." and "The turnip leaves should be about a quarter to a half of the total charge. Due to the variability in size of the leaves, the tincture of the leaves does not contribute to tincture difference. This is similar to our treatment of a rose's slip and leaves." Note: therefore a turnip "proper" is a neutral charge as neither the purpure nor the argent predominates. [2006 LoAR]

March 2005 - grapes proper:[edit | edit source]

Regarding grapes, A Glossary of Terms Used in Heraldry, by James Parker, says on p. 602 (s.n. Vine), "When blazoned proper// the leaves should be //vert//, the fruit //purpure." [2005 LoAR Cover Letter]


Registerability:[edit | edit source]

(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)

Conflict:[edit | edit source]

Identifiability:[edit | edit source]

Collected Precedents:[edit | edit source]

In the Ordinary:[edit | edit source]