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===An Ordinary of Siebmacher's ''Wappenbuch''===
* http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/heraldry/siebmacher/siebmacherordinary.html


Illustration/s from Brickbat's Armorial Stash - [[http://atensubmissions.nexiliscom.com/HeraldicArtBits.shtml]]:


Pennsic Traceable Art Project:
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==Modern:==
===Pictorial Dictionary, 3rd edition:===
* http://mistholme.com/pictorial-dictionary-of-heraldry
 
Per Mistholme, may use PicDic art for submission purposes without prior permission.
 
===Vector Graphics:===
* [[Book of Traceable Heraldic Art]] - http://heraldicart.org/
 
===Annotated [[Pennsic Traceable Art Project]]===
 
=Sources:=
* Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/
* Archive of St. Gabriel reports - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/archive.cgi
* Laurel Armory Articles - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/armory_articles.html
* https://iiif.biblissima.fr/collections/ - website that searches multiple great digital libraries
 
 
* New Heraldic Primer (Heraldry for Non-Heralds) - http://heraldry.sca.org/armory/newprimer/
* Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry (PicDic), 3rd Edition - http://mistholme.com/pictorial-dictionary-of-heraldry
* [[Period Armorials]]
 
 
* Parker's Heraldry - https://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/index.htm
* Rietstap's ''Armorial Général - http://www.coats-of-arms-heraldry.com/armoriaux/rietstap.html
 
==Standards for Evaluation of Names and Armory (SENA)==
 
===Armory - A5E. Standards for Difference through A Single Substantial Change to the Primary Charge Group:===
''as of September 2024''
 
3. Change of Number of the Primary Charge Group: A new submission which substantially changes the number of charges in the primary charge group from a protected piece of armory does not conflict with it. A primary charge group with one, two, or three charges does not conflict with armory having a primary charge group with any other number or semy. A primary charge group with four or more charges, including semy of charges, is not clear of conflict under this rule with armory whose primary charge group has four or more charges, including semy of charges. Other changes in number do not qualify for this rule, but may qualify for a distinct change under A5G below.
 
https://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#A5E3
 
===Armory - A5G. Standards for Difference through Two Distinct Changes:===
''as of September 2024''


'''5. Change of Number Within a Charge Group: Distinctly changing the number of charges in any charge group is one distinct change (DC).'''
A charge group with one, two, three, four, and five charges is a distinct change from groups of any other numbers. A charge group with six or more charges, including semy of charges, is not a distinct change from a group of any number within this size category. Changes to independent charge groups may give multiple distinct changes. Even when the number of charges is fixed by their type, there is a distinct change for changing the number under this rule.


https://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#A5G5


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=Precedents:=  
===Precedents:===  
Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html <br>
Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html]]
Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents) <br>
Morsulus Heralds Website - [[http://www.morsulus.org/]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents)
'' '''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.'' '''
Restatement Wiki - [[http://yehudaheraldry.com/restatement/index.php?title=Main_Page]] (restatements of Precedents)
'''''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.'''''


'''From the August 1988 LoAR:'''
==Definition:==
''(includes defaults, proper tinctures, blazoning)''
 
===From the August 1988 LoAR: Numbers in Blazons===
"It has long been our feeling that heralds can count above six, when necessary: most have ten fingers. Seriously, period sources blazon charges up to nine or ten fairly regularly when they are primary or secondary charges (as opposed to charges "semy" or tertiaries) and this should be permitted when the numbers are not excessive. (The numbers seven and nine appear particularly frequently, possibly because of numerological considerations.)
"It has long been our feeling that heralds can count above six, when necessary: most have ten fingers. Seriously, period sources blazon charges up to nine or ten fairly regularly when they are primary or secondary charges (as opposed to charges "semy" or tertiaries) and this should be permitted when the numbers are not excessive. (The numbers seven and nine appear particularly frequently, possibly because of numerological considerations.)
[[http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/1988/08/lar.html|August 1988 LoAR]]
[http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/1988/08/lar.html August 1988 LoAR]
 
==Registerability:==
''(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)''
 
==Conflict:==
 
 
==Identifiability:==
 
 
==Collected Precedents:==
* 2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory2.html Collected Armory Precedents]
* 1st Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html Collected Armory Precedents] - na
* 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - [http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/armoryprec.html#NUMBER NUMBER]
* The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/shauna/armory.html Collected Armory Precedents]
* 1st Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/francois/wreath.html Collected Armory Precedents]
* The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elsbeth/armory.html Collected Armory Precedents]
* The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/jaeprec.html Single HTML Document]
* 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) -
** [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/volume3.html the 1st part (Nov 1993 - June 1994)] and
** [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/daudIITOC.html the 2nd part (July 1994 - June 1996)]
* The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/bruce/ Collected precedents]
* 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -
**  [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1toc.html the 1st year (June 1990 - June 1991)] and
**  [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1btoc.html the 2nd year (July 1991 - June 1992)]
* The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/alisoun/AMETOP.html Collected Precedents]
* The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/baldwin.html Single HTML Document]
* The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/wilhelm/volume3.html Collected Precedents]
* The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/karina/volume2.html Collected Precedents]
* The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/early/volume1.html Collected Precedents]


===='''<u>Collected Precedents:</u>'''====
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008)</span>'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;"> - na</span>
'''The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) -''' <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">[[http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/armoryprec.html#NUMBER|NUMBER]]</span>
'''The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) -'''
'''The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) -'''
'''The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) -'''
'''The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) -'''
'''The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) -'''
'''The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) -'''
'''The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -'''
'''The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) -'''
'''The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) -'''
'''The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) -'''
'''The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) -'''
'''The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) -'''


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Examples:[edit | edit source]

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An Ordinary of Siebmacher's Wappenbuch[edit | edit source]


Artifacts[edit | edit source]

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Information A Information B Information C

Modern:[edit | edit source]

Pictorial Dictionary, 3rd edition:[edit | edit source]

Per Mistholme, may use PicDic art for submission purposes without prior permission.

Vector Graphics:[edit | edit source]

Annotated Pennsic Traceable Art Project[edit | edit source]

Sources:[edit | edit source]



Standards for Evaluation of Names and Armory (SENA)[edit | edit source]

Armory - A5E. Standards for Difference through A Single Substantial Change to the Primary Charge Group:[edit | edit source]

as of September 2024

3. Change of Number of the Primary Charge Group: A new submission which substantially changes the number of charges in the primary charge group from a protected piece of armory does not conflict with it. A primary charge group with one, two, or three charges does not conflict with armory having a primary charge group with any other number or semy. A primary charge group with four or more charges, including semy of charges, is not clear of conflict under this rule with armory whose primary charge group has four or more charges, including semy of charges. Other changes in number do not qualify for this rule, but may qualify for a distinct change under A5G below.

https://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#A5E3

Armory - A5G. Standards for Difference through Two Distinct Changes:[edit | edit source]

as of September 2024

5. Change of Number Within a Charge Group: Distinctly changing the number of charges in any charge group is one distinct change (DC). A charge group with one, two, three, four, and five charges is a distinct change from groups of any other numbers. A charge group with six or more charges, including semy of charges, is not a distinct change from a group of any number within this size category. Changes to independent charge groups may give multiple distinct changes. Even when the number of charges is fixed by their type, there is a distinct change for changing the number under this rule.

https://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#A5G5

Precedents:[edit | edit source]

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html
Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)
Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.

Definition:[edit | edit source]

(includes defaults, proper tinctures, blazoning)

From the August 1988 LoAR: Numbers in Blazons[edit | edit source]

"It has long been our feeling that heralds can count above six, when necessary: most have ten fingers. Seriously, period sources blazon charges up to nine or ten fairly regularly when they are primary or secondary charges (as opposed to charges "semy" or tertiaries) and this should be permitted when the numbers are not excessive. (The numbers seven and nine appear particularly frequently, possibly because of numerological considerations.) August 1988 LoAR

Registerability:[edit | edit source]

(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)

Conflict:[edit | edit source]

Identifiability:[edit | edit source]

Collected Precedents:[edit | edit source]


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