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|Elsbeth Anne Roth | |||
|2001.06 | |||
|While a submission was returned in April 2000 because of lack of documentation for the given name ''Phyllida/Phillida'', Argent Snail found a citation of a ''Fillida'' who was married in 1620. It therefore appears that the name did appear as a given name early enough to be registerable. ['''Phillida Parker''', [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2001/06/01-06lar.html 06/01], A-Ealdoremere] | |||
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|Elsbeth Anne Roth | |||
|2000.04 | |||
|Submitted as ''Phyllida Longacre of Ravenglass'', ''Phyllida'' is the accusative singular form of the classical feminine name ''Phyllis''. The earliest citation in English seems to be ''Phillida and Corydon'' by Nicholas Breton (1542 - 1626) who appears to have been trying to translate or at least emulate a poem by Propertius. In the original, the name ''Phyllis'' appears in the Latin accusative (''Phyllida'') and using this in translation is probably a misreading of the correct form of the name. As so often happens, a popular poem or song gave rise to a brief vogue for the name. It seems likely that the submitted form appeared as a given name after our period, so we have changed the given name to the documented period form. ['''Phyllis Longacre of Ravenglass''', [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2000/04/00-04lar.html 04/00], A-Æthelmearc] [''overturned, '''Phillida Parker''','' [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2001/06/01-06lar.html 06/01]'', A-Ealdoremere''] | |||
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==Conflict:== | ==Conflict:== | ||
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* The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - in Compiled Names Precedents above | * The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - in Compiled Names Precedents above | ||
* The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - in Compiled Names Precedents above | * The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - in Compiled Names Precedents above | ||
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Period Forms:[edit | edit source]
- Name - Summarize documentation as you would on a submission form - period spelling, type of name (eg. English feminine give name), date, source.
Other Potential Sources:[edit | edit source]
- Laurel Name Articles - http:heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/|http:heraldry.sca.org/laurel/ ("no copy" source)
- On-line System for Commentary and Response (OSCAR) - https://oscar.sca.org/ (mine previous submissions, need copies)
- Morsulus LoAR/Precedent Searches - http://www.morsulus.org/ ("no copy")
- Name Pattern Search Form for registered items - http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_np.cgi
- Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Names Archive" - http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ (copies required)
- Archive of St. Gabriel reports - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/archive.cgi ("no copy")
- Academy of St. Gabriel "working" bibliography - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-documents/biblio.html
- Database of Medieval Names ("index" of the St. Gabriel articles) - http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/database/alphalist.php
- Dictionary of Medieval Names from European Sources - http://dmnes.org/names
- IGI Searches (aka Family Search) - https://familysearch.org/search/collection/igi (batches B, C, J, K, M (except M17 and M18), or P are acceptable)
- Omniglot On-line Encyclopedia of Writing Systems and Languages - http://www.omniglot.com/index.htm
Precedents:[edit | edit source]
- Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[1]]
- Morsulus Heralds Website - [[2]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents)
- Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.
Registerability:[edit | edit source]
June 2001, April 200: initially deemed post-period, then documented to gray period[edit | edit source]
Elsbeth Anne Roth | 2001.06 | While a submission was returned in April 2000 because of lack of documentation for the given name Phyllida/Phillida, Argent Snail found a citation of a Fillida who was married in 1620. It therefore appears that the name did appear as a given name early enough to be registerable. [Phillida Parker, 06/01, A-Ealdoremere] |
Elsbeth Anne Roth | 2000.04 | Submitted as Phyllida Longacre of Ravenglass, Phyllida is the accusative singular form of the classical feminine name Phyllis. The earliest citation in English seems to be Phillida and Corydon by Nicholas Breton (1542 - 1626) who appears to have been trying to translate or at least emulate a poem by Propertius. In the original, the name Phyllis appears in the Latin accusative (Phyllida) and using this in translation is probably a misreading of the correct form of the name. As so often happens, a popular poem or song gave rise to a brief vogue for the name. It seems likely that the submitted form appeared as a given name after our period, so we have changed the given name to the documented period form. [Phyllis Longacre of Ravenglass, 04/00, A-Æthelmearc] [overturned, Phillida Parker, 06/01, A-Ealdoremere] |
http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/Compatible.html
Conflict:[edit | edit source]
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Collected Precedents:[edit | edit source]
- Compiled Names Precedents (current through May 2004, as of 10/2016) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/index.html
- 2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - to be included in Compiled Names Precedents above
- 1st Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - ditto
- The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - http:heraldry.sca.org/goodbye.cgi?url=http:www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/nameprec.html
- The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/shauna/name.html
- The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - included in Compiled Names Precedents above
- The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elsbeth/name.html (included in above)
- The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/jaelleret.html (also in CNP above)
- The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/daud2ret.html (also in CNP above)
- The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/bruce/Bruceret.html (also in CNP above)
- The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1ret.html (also in CNP above)
- The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/AlisounRet.html
- The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/baldwinret.html
- The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - in Compiled Names Precedents above
- The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - in Compiled Names Precedents above
- The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - in Compiled Names Precedents above