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=Illustrations:=  
===Illustrations:===  
==Period source/s:==  
====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Period source/s:</span>====  
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| https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Snoldelevhorns.JPG/180px-Snoldelevhorns.JPG
| http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Snoldelevhorns.JPG/640px-Snoldelevhorns.JPG|191x250px|Triskelion]]
| http://www.sofyalarus.info/heraldicart/BSB390Brechtel_horns.jpg
| http://www.sofyalarus.info/heraldicart/BSB390Brechtel_horns.jpg|152x264px|BSB]]
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| FB Image, Quatreskelion of legs in hosen, doodle from a 13th-century law manuscript (Amiens BM 347).
| FB Image, Quatreskelion of legs in hosen, doodle from a 13th-century law manuscript (Amiens BM 347).
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===='''Pictorial Dictionary of SCA Heraldry (3rd edition):'''====
==Modern:==
<span style="display: block; font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;">
===Pictorial Dictionary of SCA Heraldry (3rd edition):===  
* <span style="font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;">''<span style="background-color: #edf6fe; color: #123b66; font-family: inherit; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">[[http://mistholme.com/dictionary/triskelion-triskele/|Triskelion; Triskele]]</span>''</span>
* [http://mistholme.com/dictionary/triskelion-triskele/ Triskelion; Triskele]
</span>


====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Brickbat's Armorial Stash:</span>====
===[[Pennsic Traceable Art Project]]===
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[http://atensubmissions.nexiliscom.com/HeraldicArtBits.shtml]]:</span>


====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[scaheraldry/Pennsic Traceable Art Project|Pennsic Traceable Art Project]]</span>====
=Sources:=  
Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/
Archive of St. Gabriel reports - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/archive.cgi]
Laurel Armory Articles - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/armory_articles.html
[[Period Armorials]]




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=Precedents:=  
===<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Sources:]]Sources:</span>===  
Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - [[http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/]]</span>
Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents)
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Archive of St. Gabriel reports - [[http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/archive.cgi]]</span>
Restatement Wiki - http://yehudaheraldry.com/restatement/index.php?title=Main_Page]] (restatements of Precedents)</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Laurel Armory Articles - [[http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/armory_articles.html]]</span>
'' '''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.''' ''
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[scaheraldry/Period Armorials|Period Armorials]]</span>


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==Definition:==  
===<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:]]Precedents:</span>===
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html]]</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Morsulus Heralds Website - [[http://www.morsulus.org/]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents)</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Restatement Wiki - [[http://yehudaheraldry.com/restatement/index.php?title=Main_Page]] (restatements of Precedents)</span>
''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">'''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.'''</span>''


====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Definition:]]<u>'''Definition:'''</u></span>====


==Registerability:==
(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)


====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;"><u>'''Registerability:'''</u></span>====  
===December 2015 - SFPP triskele===  
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)</span>
From Wreath: Should the triskele get a step from period practice? Since Karina Laurel allowed it first in the mid-1970s we do not seem to have seriously questioned whether the triskele, a.k.a. the triskelion arrondi, as the Society defines it (as opposed to modern real world usage) was actually a period charge.


===December 2015 - SFPP triskele===
The triskelion arrondi was first registered in the Society under Karina Laurel in 1975. Its second registration was to the (then) Principality of Trimaris, in 1981; when Trimaris registered its arms in 1982, the same charge was blazoned by Wilhelm Laurel as a triskele, and the terms have been synonymous in Society blazonry ever since. But while the charge has had a steady run in Society armory, no documentation for it was ever supplied. Thus we have no examples of its use as a period charge, or even a period artistic motif.
===<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';">From Wreath: Should the triskele get a step from period practice?</span>===
<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">Since Karina Laurel allowed it first in the mid-1970s we do not seem to have seriously questioned whether the triskele, a.k.a. the triskelion arrondi, as the Society defines it (as opposed to modern real world usage) was actually a period charge.</span>
<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">The triskelion arrondi was first registered in the Society under Karina Laurel in 1975. Its second registration was to the (then) Principality of Trimaris, in 1981; when Trimaris registered its arms in 1982, the same charge was blazoned by Wilhelm Laurel as a triskele, and the terms have been synonymous in Society blazonry ever since. But while the charge has had a steady run in Society armory, no documentation for it was ever supplied. Thus we have no examples of its use as a period charge, or even a period artistic motif.</span>
<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">The period heraldic examples of triskelions were composed of three human legs (as in the arms of the Isle of Man c.1280) or three human arms (as in the arms of Tremaine c.1470). There may be examples of other animate charges, or portions thereof, conjoined in a way that could be characterized as a triskelion. But the geometric stylization of the triskelion arrondi is unknown in period heraldry. There were period artistic motifs that we'd consider to be triskelions - e.g., the triskelion of spirals found in Celtic art - but none of them quite match the charge we've been registering as a triskelion arrondi/triskele.</span>
<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">The triskelion of spirals has already been ruled to be a step from period practice. Given the current absence of evidence for the triskelion arrondi or triskele, we are proposing to rule it a step from period practice as well. We ask for commentary on this matter, and in particular for any documentation of the charge (as it's defined in Society heraldry) from period heraldry or period art.</span>
http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/12/15-12cl.html


====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Conflict:]]<u>'''Conflict:'''</u></span>====
The period heraldic examples of triskelions were composed of three human legs (as in the arms of the Isle of Man c.1280) or three human arms (as in the arms of Tremaine c.1470). There may be examples of other animate charges, or portions thereof, conjoined in a way that could be characterized as a triskelion. But the geometric stylization of the triskelion arrondi is unknown in period heraldry. There were period artistic motifs that we'd consider to be triskelions - e.g., the triskelion of spirals found in Celtic art - but none of them quite match the charge we've been registering as a triskelion arrondi/triskele.


The triskelion of spirals has already been ruled to be a step from period practice. Given the current absence of evidence for the triskelion arrondi or triskele, we are proposing to rule it a step from period practice as well. We ask for commentary on this matter, and in particular for any documentation of the charge (as it's defined in Society heraldry) from period heraldry or period art.
http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/12/15-12cl.html


====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Identifiability:]]<u>'''Identifiability:'''</u></span>====  
==Conflict:==  




====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">'''<u>Collected Precedents:</u>'''</span>====
==Identifiability:==  
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008)</span>'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;"> - </span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#TRISKELE|TRISKELE and TRISKELION]]</span>


'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) -</span>'''
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) -</span>'''


==Collected Precedents:==
* 2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory2.html Collected Armory Precedents]
* 1st Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html#TRISKELE TRISKELE and TRISKELION]
* 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/goodbye.cgi?url=http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/armoryprec.html Collected Armory Precedents]
* The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/shauna/armory.html Collected Armory Precedents]
* 1st Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/francois/wreath.html Collected Armory Precedents]
* The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elsbeth/armory.html Collected Armory Precedents]
* The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/jaeprec.html Single HTML Document]
* 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) -
** [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/volume3.html the 1st part (Nov 1993 - June 1994)] and
** [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/daudIITOC.html the 2nd part (July 1994 - June 1996)]
* The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/bruce/ Collected precedents]
* 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -
**  [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1toc.html the 1st year (June 1990 - June 1991)] and
**  [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1btoc.html the 2nd year (July 1991 - June 1992)]
* The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/alisoun/AMETOP.html Collected Precedents]
* The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/baldwin.html Single HTML Document]
* The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/wilhelm/volume3.html Collected Precedents]
* The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/karina/volume2.html Collected Precedents]
* The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/early/volume1.html Collected Precedents]


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===The [[scaheraldry/Ordinary|Ordinary ]]:===  
=The Ordinary:=
(include pentaskelion, triskele)
(include pentaskelion, triskele)
* [[http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_desc.cgi?p=TRISKELION|Triskelion]]
* [http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_desc.cgi?p=TRISKELION Triskelion]
 
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Latest revision as of 13:16, 12 September 2020

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Illustrations:[edit | edit source]

Period source/s:[edit | edit source]

4.jpg 180px-Snoldelevhorns.JPG BSB390Brechtel_horns.jpg
FB Image, Quatreskelion of legs in hosen, doodle from a 13th-century law manuscript (Amiens BM 347). Triskelion of interlaced drinking horns, Snoldelev Runestone BSB 390 Brechtel Wappenbuch, 1554-68, interlaced horns


Guillim1611_fish-interlaced.jpg
Fish

Modern:[edit | edit source]

Pictorial Dictionary of SCA Heraldry (3rd edition):[edit | edit source]

Pennsic Traceable Art Project[edit | edit source]

Sources:[edit | edit source]

Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/ Archive of St. Gabriel reports - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/archive.cgi] Laurel Armory Articles - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/armory_articles.html Period Armorials


Precedents:[edit | edit source]

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents) Restatement Wiki - http://yehudaheraldry.com/restatement/index.php?title=Main_Page]] (restatements of Precedents) Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.

Definition:[edit | edit source]

Registerability:[edit | edit source]

(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)

December 2015 - SFPP triskele[edit | edit source]

From Wreath: Should the triskele get a step from period practice? Since Karina Laurel allowed it first in the mid-1970s we do not seem to have seriously questioned whether the triskele, a.k.a. the triskelion arrondi, as the Society defines it (as opposed to modern real world usage) was actually a period charge.

The triskelion arrondi was first registered in the Society under Karina Laurel in 1975. Its second registration was to the (then) Principality of Trimaris, in 1981; when Trimaris registered its arms in 1982, the same charge was blazoned by Wilhelm Laurel as a triskele, and the terms have been synonymous in Society blazonry ever since. But while the charge has had a steady run in Society armory, no documentation for it was ever supplied. Thus we have no examples of its use as a period charge, or even a period artistic motif.

The period heraldic examples of triskelions were composed of three human legs (as in the arms of the Isle of Man c.1280) or three human arms (as in the arms of Tremaine c.1470). There may be examples of other animate charges, or portions thereof, conjoined in a way that could be characterized as a triskelion. But the geometric stylization of the triskelion arrondi is unknown in period heraldry. There were period artistic motifs that we'd consider to be triskelions - e.g., the triskelion of spirals found in Celtic art - but none of them quite match the charge we've been registering as a triskelion arrondi/triskele.

The triskelion of spirals has already been ruled to be a step from period practice. Given the current absence of evidence for the triskelion arrondi or triskele, we are proposing to rule it a step from period practice as well. We ask for commentary on this matter, and in particular for any documentation of the charge (as it's defined in Society heraldry) from period heraldry or period art. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2015/12/15-12cl.html

Conflict:[edit | edit source]

Identifiability:[edit | edit source]

Collected Precedents:[edit | edit source]


The Ordinary:[edit | edit source]

(include pentaskelion, triskele)

Logocaption.jpg
WARNING: Do not cite this page as a reference. This page is on this wiki only to make the content "searchable" and easier to find. If you find the information you seek here, go to the original sources (generally linked) to verify the information and use them for your documentation.