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A certain Cynedd ap Gwen was registered in January of 1985 (via the East) - too long ago to be any use as a precedent.  LoAR doesn't say much.
A certain '''Cynedd''' ap Gwen was registered in January of 1985 (via the East) - too long ago to be any use as a precedent.  LoAR doesn't say much.


Not found on the: Database of Medieval Names, Dictionary of Medieval Names from European Sources, OSCAR, heraldry.sca.org Google search, St. Gabriel Google search.
'''Cennydd''' is apparently found in Withycombe, s.n. Kenneth. The Welsh form of the name is found as Cennydd son of Gila, a 6th C Welsh saint. The form '''Cenydd''' is found in _Lives of the British Saints: the Saints of Wales and Cornwall_.
* Examples of c/k switches include Caducan[us]/Kadugan[us] and Cadwalader/Kadwaladrus, found in Constanza of Thamesreach, "Given names in the charters of the Abbey of Ystrad Marchell, 1176-1283" (https://s-gabriel.org/names/constanza/ystradmarchell-given.html) and Cnaiþur/Keneithur, found in Constanza of Thamesreach's "Given Names from the Llandaff Episcopal Acta, 1146-1286 (https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/constanza/llandaff.html)
Item 31 on the 31 January 2018 East LoI - https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=100&loi=5005
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Name not found on the: Database of Medieval Names, Dictionary of Medieval Names from European Sources, OSCAR, heraldry.sca.org Google search, St. Gabriel Google search.


Also no luck at Celtic Personal Names of Roman Britain - https://www.asnc.cam.ac.uk/personalnames/element.php (closest is Cenacus from keno- ).
Also no luck at Celtic Personal Names of Roman Britain - https://www.asnc.cam.ac.uk/personalnames/element.php (closest is Cenacus from keno- ).
 
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The First Thousand Years of British Names doesn't have Cynnedd per Google search, but it will take awhile to browse to see if there are possible similar forms - https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/british1000/
The First Thousand Years of British Names doesn't have Cynnedd per Google search, but it will take awhile to browse to see if there are possible similar forms - https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/british1000/


A similar name:
A similar name, '''Cynwrig''':
* Gwen verch Cynwrig de Insula Mona. Registered name change from holding name Gwen of Elfsea.
* Gwen verch '''Cynwrig''' de Insula Mona. Registered name change from holding name Gwen of Elfsea.
** Cynwrig is documented as a modern form of a name documented to 1292-3 as Kenuric and Kenneric. In this case, the name remained in use until the end of our period and beyond, according to Morgan and Morgan, s.n. Cynwrig. While the most typical forms found before 1600 start with K-, the modern form is plausible as a rare c. 1600 spelling, as examples with all the modern features can be found at that time.
** Cynwrig is documented as a modern form of a name documented to 1292-3 as Kenuric and Kenneric. In this case, the name remained in use until the end of our period and beyond, according to Morgan and Morgan, s.n. Cynwrig. While the most typical forms found before 1600 start with K-, the modern form is plausible as a rare c. 1600 spelling, as examples with all the modern features can be found at that time.
* http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/04/11-04lar.html
* http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/04/11-04lar.html
* "Cynwrig" is a header form as a given name and byname here: 
Cynwrig
    Kenewreic 1206
    Kenweryc 1227
Cynwrig (in bynames)
    Kenewrec 1202
    Kenewreyc 1202
[https://s-gabriel.org/names/constanza/ystradmarchell-given.html Given names in the charters of the Abbey of Ystrad Marchell, 1176-1283]
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Another similar name, '''Cynred''':
* Cynred - Found on Academy of St. Gabriel Report 1920, http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?1920+0. "However, we were able to find one <Cynred> who was a 7th c. prince of Mercia...Therefore, it appears <Cynred> was a rare name for an Anglo-Saxon man, although there is some evidence it did exist in the 7th century."
[https://sp.ukdataservice.ac.uk/doc/3679/mrdoc/pdf/3679userguide.pdf The Dyffryn Clwyd Court Roll Database 1294-1422 User Guide]
* Ken' or Kn' has been standardised as Cyn. It appears to be usual to assume that this is an abbreviation for Cynwrig, but so many Cyn- names appear in the rolls that this assumption seemed unwarranted, although Cynwrig is the most likely extension of Cyn. Where Cynwrig does appear m the database it is because the name is spelt out in full. Note that the scribes would write Ken' in exactly the same way as Keu', which could imply Cyfnerth. Included under this general head are the rare Kona, Kena and Cona, which some of our evidence suggests are variants of Cyn (and on one occasion of Cynin), these are standardised as Cyn, though with the spelling in brackets. Note that Bartrum uses a form Cwna.
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=Byname/Surname=
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Latest revision as of 21:30, 7 September 2019

Full Name Desired[edit | edit source]

  • Basic info about the name: culture, meaning, sound...

Cynnedd[edit | edit source]

  • reportedly "found in a list of valid names"

A Simple Guide to 13th C Welsh names documents Kennith, Kenith, Kynith

meaning modern Welsh period forms
Huntsman [Cynydd] Kennith, Kenith, Kynith

- http://heraldry.sca.org/names/welsh13.html

A certain Cynedd ap Gwen was registered in January of 1985 (via the East) - too long ago to be any use as a precedent. LoAR doesn't say much.

Cennydd is apparently found in Withycombe, s.n. Kenneth. The Welsh form of the name is found as Cennydd son of Gila, a 6th C Welsh saint. The form Cenydd is found in _Lives of the British Saints: the Saints of Wales and Cornwall_.

Item 31 on the 31 January 2018 East LoI - https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=100&loi=5005


Name not found on the: Database of Medieval Names, Dictionary of Medieval Names from European Sources, OSCAR, heraldry.sca.org Google search, St. Gabriel Google search.

Also no luck at Celtic Personal Names of Roman Britain - https://www.asnc.cam.ac.uk/personalnames/element.php (closest is Cenacus from keno- ).


The First Thousand Years of British Names doesn't have Cynnedd per Google search, but it will take awhile to browse to see if there are possible similar forms - https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/british1000/

A similar name, Cynwrig:

  • Gwen verch Cynwrig de Insula Mona. Registered name change from holding name Gwen of Elfsea.
    • Cynwrig is documented as a modern form of a name documented to 1292-3 as Kenuric and Kenneric. In this case, the name remained in use until the end of our period and beyond, according to Morgan and Morgan, s.n. Cynwrig. While the most typical forms found before 1600 start with K-, the modern form is plausible as a rare c. 1600 spelling, as examples with all the modern features can be found at that time.
  • http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/04/11-04lar.html
  • "Cynwrig" is a header form as a given name and byname here:

Cynwrig

   Kenewreic	1206
   Kenweryc	1227

Cynwrig (in bynames)

    Kenewrec	1202
    Kenewreyc	1202

Given names in the charters of the Abbey of Ystrad Marchell, 1176-1283


Another similar name, Cynred:

  • Cynred - Found on Academy of St. Gabriel Report 1920, http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?1920+0. "However, we were able to find one <Cynred> who was a 7th c. prince of Mercia...Therefore, it appears <Cynred> was a rare name for an Anglo-Saxon man, although there is some evidence it did exist in the 7th century."

The Dyffryn Clwyd Court Roll Database 1294-1422 User Guide

  • Ken' or Kn' has been standardised as Cyn. It appears to be usual to assume that this is an abbreviation for Cynwrig, but so many Cyn- names appear in the rolls that this assumption seemed unwarranted, although Cynwrig is the most likely extension of Cyn. Where Cynwrig does appear m the database it is because the name is spelt out in full. Note that the scribes would write Ken' in exactly the same way as Keu', which could imply Cyfnerth. Included under this general head are the rare Kona, Kena and Cona, which some of our evidence suggests are variants of Cyn (and on one occasion of Cynin), these are standardised as Cyn, though with the spelling in brackets. Note that Bartrum uses a form Cwna.

Byname/Surname[edit | edit source]

  • Documentation for name


Combination[edit | edit source]

  • Documentation for the combination of the names
  • Needed if lingual mix, temporal incompatibility, double-given name, etc.