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==Russian/North Slav== | ==Russian/North Slav== | ||
North Slavic compatible with Hungarian per Appendix C, but Russian is not. | |||
* Chaska (m) -- "hour." Vars: Caska. 1088. [Mor 205] | * Chaska (m) -- "hour." Vars: Caska. 1088. [Mor 205] | ||
* Chasko (m) -- "hour." Vars: Czasko (Czasko Martinovich, peasant). 1552. [Tup 421] | * Chasko (m) -- "hour." Vars: Czasko (Czasko Martinovich, peasant). 1552. [Tup 421] | ||
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==Frances (fem.) variants== | ==Frances (fem.) variants== | ||
===Database of Medieval Names | Only German, Mongol, North Slavic and South Slavic are currently compatible with Hungarian per Appendix C. | ||
===Database of Medieval Names=== | |||
No Mongol, North Slavic or South Slavic variants of Frances were found in this source. | |||
Swiss | |||
* Century Variant Diminutive? Language Source | |||
* 14thC,15thC Francesia Latin 14th-15th C Given Names in Latin from Switzerland | |||
Italian | |||
* Century Variant Diminutive? Language Source | * Century Variant Diminutive? Language Source | ||
* 13thC Franceska Latin Feminine Given Names from Thirteenth Century Perugia | * 13thC Franceska Latin Feminine Given Names from Thirteenth Century Perugia | ||
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===DMNES - Frances=== | ===DMNES - Frances=== | ||
Frances f. Latin Francisca 'Frankish, Frenchwoman'. The name of a 15th C Italian saint... | Frances f. Latin Francisca 'Frankish, Frenchwoman'. The name of a 15th C Italian saint... so '''Saints Name allowance''' could apply. | ||
Only German, Mongol, North Slavic and South Slavic are currently compatible with Hungarian per Appendix C. | |||
====Switzerland==== | ====Switzerland==== | ||
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==Francis (masc.) variants== | ==Francis (masc.) variants== | ||
Use to support more spelling options for feminine name? | Use to support more spelling options for feminine name? | ||
Again, only German, Mongol, North Slavic and South Slavic are currently compatible with Hungarian per Appendix C. | |||
No Mongol, North Slavic and South Slavic variants of Frances were found in the Database of Medieval Names. | |||
===German=== | |||
* Century Variant Diminutive? Language Source | |||
* 15thC Franciscus Latin German Names from Kosice, 1300 - 1500 | |||
* 15thC Franciscus German German Names from Rottweil, Baden-Württemberg, 1441 | |||
===Italian=== | ===Italian=== | ||
* Century Variant Diminutive? Language Source | * Century Variant Diminutive? Language Source | ||
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* 15thC Chino Y Italian Names in 15th Century Florence and her Dominions: the Condado | * 15thC Chino Y Italian Names in 15th Century Florence and her Dominions: the Condado | ||
* http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/database/alphalist.php?canonical=Francis | * http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/database/alphalist.php?canonical=Francis | ||
==Saints Name in Hungary== | |||
''Hungarian Feminine Names'' by Walraven van Nijmegen says: "Most given names in medieval and Renaissance Hungary are variants of Christian names common throughout Europe, though there are also names of Latin, German, and Slavic origin." https://heraldry.sca.org/names/magfem2.html | |||
According to "Religion in Hungary" on Wikipedia "The majority of Hungarians became Christian in the 11th century. Hungary's first king, Saint Stephen I, took up Western Christianity, although his mother Sarolt was baptized into Eastern Christianity. Hungary remained predominantly Catholic until the 16th century, when the Reformation took place and, as a result, first Lutheranism and then soon afterwards Calvinism became the religion of almost the entire population. " | |||
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Hungary | |||
''Saint Frances of Rome'', Italian Santa Francesca Romana, (born 1384, Rome [Italy]—died March 9, 1440, Rome; canonized 1608 - so unfortunately out-of-period. | |||
''Saint Francis of Assisi'' (Italian: San Francesco d'Assisi, Latin: Sanctus Franciscus Assisiensis), born Giovanni di Pietro di Bernardone, informally named as Francesco (1181/1182 – 3 October 1226),[2] was an Italian Catholic friar, deacon and preacher. He founded the men's Order of Friars Minor, the women's Order of Saint Clare, the Third Order of Saint Francis and the Custody of the Holy Land. Francis is one of the most venerated religious figures in history.[3] Pope Gregory IX canonized Francis on 16 July 1228. | |||
Determined to bring the Gospel to all peoples of the World, Francis sought on several occasions to take his message out of Italy... By this time, the growing Order of friars was divided into provinces and groups were sent to France, Germany, Hungary [date?], and Spain and to the East. Upon receiving a report of the martyrdom of five brothers in Morocco, Francis returned to Italy via Venice... | |||
* per Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_of_Assisi | |||
* see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Christianity_in_Hungary | |||
Indeed, ''Hungarian Personal Names of the 16th Century'' by Walraven van Nijmegen documents the masculine name '''<Franciscus> to 1574'''. | |||
https://heraldry.sca.org/names/hungarian/ | |||
In the August 2013 Cover Letter - Juliana de Luna notes on resources for Hungarian names: "a name might be recorded in vernacular form as ...Nagy Miklos and in Latinized form as ...Michael Nagy. ...we allow the registration of Hungarian names in either order. In Latinized names, the given names are Latinized, but bynames are often identical to the vernacular forms. This is even true for patronymic bynames..." | |||
https://heraldry.sca.org/names/resources/hungarian.html | |||
So St. Francis of Assisi was clearly venerated in Hungary in SCA period and was therefore in the naming pool for a Christian given names, certainly the Latin feminine of Franciscus documented to 1574 above, i.e. Francisca, and it's plausible spelling variants. | |||
=Byname/Surname= | =Byname/Surname= | ||
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** Within 300 years if in compatible naming groups | ** Within 300 years if in compatible naming groups | ||
* [http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#AppendixC SENA Appendix C: Regional Naming Groups and Their Mixes] | * [http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#AppendixC SENA Appendix C: Regional Naming Groups and Their Mixes] | ||
** Need documentation of compatibility if cultures are not on the above list | ** 550-1100 - Hungarian, Romanian, etc. - compatible with German, North Slavic, South Slavic | ||
** 1100-1600 - Hungarian, Romanian, etc. - compatible with German, Mongol (per Sept 2012 CL), North Slavic, South Slavic | |||
Need documentation of compatibility if cultures are not on the above list |
Latest revision as of 17:24, 20 October 2019
Full Name Desired[edit | edit source]
- Hungarian name, with feminine given name Cesca/Ceska (from Francesca)
Cesca, Ceska[edit | edit source]
Russian/North Slav[edit | edit source]
North Slavic compatible with Hungarian per Appendix C, but Russian is not.
- Chaska (m) -- "hour." Vars: Caska. 1088. [Mor 205]
- Chasko (m) -- "hour." Vars: Czasko (Czasko Martinovich, peasant). 1552. [Tup 421]
- Chesislava (f) -- Vars: Cecislava. 1295. [Mor 206]
- Cheska (m) -- Vars: Czieska (Andrei Czieska, craftsman). 1565. [Tup 427] Pats: Cheskin (Ivan Cheskin). 15th Century. [Gra 272]
- Chesko (m) -- Chesko. 14th Century. [Mor 206]
- Cheslav (m) -- Cheslav. 1310. [Mor 206] Vars: Ceslaus. 1310. [Mor 206] Cessezlaus. 1310. [Mor 206] Czeslaus. 1310. [Mor 206] Sisla. 1310. [Mor 206] Zeslaus. 1310. [Mor 206]
- Cheslava (f) -- fem of Cheslav. Cheslava. 12th Century. [Mor 206]
- Chis (m) -- Chis. 1057. [Mor 207]
- Chish (m) -- Vars: Czisz (Lukas Czisz, peasant). 1564. [Tup 429]
- Chisha (m) -- Pats: Chishin (Pervoi Tret'iakov Chishin, scribe). 1598. [RIB XIV 155]
- Chishko (m) -- Vars: Cyschko. 1331. [Mor 207]
- Chisko (m) -- Pat Vars: Cziskowicz (Lisko Cziskowicz, peasant). 1565. [Tup 227]
- Chislav (m) -- Chislav. 1213. [Mor 207] Vars: Schizlaus. 1213. [Mor 207] Scizlaus. 1213. [Mor 207]
https://heraldry.sca.org/names/paul/c.html
Frances (fem.) variants[edit | edit source]
Only German, Mongol, North Slavic and South Slavic are currently compatible with Hungarian per Appendix C.
Database of Medieval Names[edit | edit source]
No Mongol, North Slavic or South Slavic variants of Frances were found in this source.
Swiss
- Century Variant Diminutive? Language Source
- 14thC,15thC Francesia Latin 14th-15th C Given Names in Latin from Switzerland
Italian
- Century Variant Diminutive? Language Source
- 13thC Franceska Latin Feminine Given Names from Thirteenth Century Perugia
- 13thC Francisca Latin Feminine Given Names from Thirteenth Century Perugia
- 14thC Francesca Latin Italian names from Imola, 1312
- 14thC Francesca Italian Fourteenth Century Venetian Personal Names
- 14thC Francisca Latin Italian names from Imola, 1312
- 14thC Franciscina Y Latin Italian names from Imola, 1312
- 15thC Cecca Y Italian Feminine Given Names from the Online Catasto of Florence of 1427
- 15thC Cecca Y Italian Names in 15th Century Florence and her Dominions: the Condado
- 15thC Cecco Y Italian Names in 15th Century Florence and her Dominions: the Condado
- http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/database/alphalist.php?canonical=Frances
DMNES - Frances[edit | edit source]
Frances f. Latin Francisca 'Frankish, Frenchwoman'. The name of a 15th C Italian saint... so Saints Name allowance could apply.
Only German, Mongol, North Slavic and South Slavic are currently compatible with Hungarian per Appendix C.
Switzerland[edit | edit source]
Latin
- 14thCx1478 Francesia (nom) Ob-SPVn (47); 1436 Francesie (dat) MHCG2 210
Francis (masc.) variants[edit | edit source]
Use to support more spelling options for feminine name?
Again, only German, Mongol, North Slavic and South Slavic are currently compatible with Hungarian per Appendix C. No Mongol, North Slavic and South Slavic variants of Frances were found in the Database of Medieval Names.
German[edit | edit source]
- Century Variant Diminutive? Language Source
- 15thC Franciscus Latin German Names from Kosice, 1300 - 1500
- 15thC Franciscus German German Names from Rottweil, Baden-Württemberg, 1441
Italian[edit | edit source]
- Century Variant Diminutive? Language Source
- 14thC Çeccus Y Latin Italian names from Imola, 1312
- 14thC Cechus Y Latin Italian names from Imola, 1312
- 14thC Ceconellus Y Latin Italian names from Imola, 1312
- 14thC Cescus Y Latin Italian names from Imola, 1312
- 14thC Checo Y Italian Fourteenth Century Venetian Personal Names
- 14thC Chicholus Y Latin Italian names from Imola, 1312
- 14thC Chicolinus Y Latin Italian names from Imola, 1312
- 14thC Cichollus Latin Italian names from Imola, 1312
- 14thC Cichus Y Latin Italian names from Imola, 1312
- 14thC Cicus Y Latin Italian names from Imola, 1312
- 14thC Ciscus Y Latin Italian names from Imola, 1312
- 15thC Cecchino Y Italian Names in 15th Century Florence and her Dominions: the Condado
- 15thC Ceccio Y Italian Names in 15th Century Florence and her Dominions: the Condado
- 15thC Cecco Y Italian Italian Masculine Given Names from 15th- and 16th-century Viterbo
- 15thC Cecco Y Italian Names in 15th Century Florence and her Dominions: the Condado
- 15thC Ceccone Y Italian Names in 15th Century Florence and her Dominions: the Condado
- 15thC Cece Y Italian Names from Arezzo, Italy, 1386-1528
- 15thC Cecherello Y Italian Names in 15th Century Florence and her Dominions: the Condado
- 15thC Cecherino Y Italian Names in 15th Century Florence and her Dominions: the Condado
- 15thC Chino Y Italian Names in 15th Century Florence and her Dominions: the Condado
- http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/database/alphalist.php?canonical=Francis
Saints Name in Hungary[edit | edit source]
Hungarian Feminine Names by Walraven van Nijmegen says: "Most given names in medieval and Renaissance Hungary are variants of Christian names common throughout Europe, though there are also names of Latin, German, and Slavic origin." https://heraldry.sca.org/names/magfem2.html
According to "Religion in Hungary" on Wikipedia "The majority of Hungarians became Christian in the 11th century. Hungary's first king, Saint Stephen I, took up Western Christianity, although his mother Sarolt was baptized into Eastern Christianity. Hungary remained predominantly Catholic until the 16th century, when the Reformation took place and, as a result, first Lutheranism and then soon afterwards Calvinism became the religion of almost the entire population. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Hungary
Saint Frances of Rome, Italian Santa Francesca Romana, (born 1384, Rome [Italy]—died March 9, 1440, Rome; canonized 1608 - so unfortunately out-of-period.
Saint Francis of Assisi (Italian: San Francesco d'Assisi, Latin: Sanctus Franciscus Assisiensis), born Giovanni di Pietro di Bernardone, informally named as Francesco (1181/1182 – 3 October 1226),[2] was an Italian Catholic friar, deacon and preacher. He founded the men's Order of Friars Minor, the women's Order of Saint Clare, the Third Order of Saint Francis and the Custody of the Holy Land. Francis is one of the most venerated religious figures in history.[3] Pope Gregory IX canonized Francis on 16 July 1228. Determined to bring the Gospel to all peoples of the World, Francis sought on several occasions to take his message out of Italy... By this time, the growing Order of friars was divided into provinces and groups were sent to France, Germany, Hungary [date?], and Spain and to the East. Upon receiving a report of the martyrdom of five brothers in Morocco, Francis returned to Italy via Venice...
- per Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_of_Assisi
- see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Christianity_in_Hungary
Indeed, Hungarian Personal Names of the 16th Century by Walraven van Nijmegen documents the masculine name <Franciscus> to 1574. https://heraldry.sca.org/names/hungarian/
In the August 2013 Cover Letter - Juliana de Luna notes on resources for Hungarian names: "a name might be recorded in vernacular form as ...Nagy Miklos and in Latinized form as ...Michael Nagy. ...we allow the registration of Hungarian names in either order. In Latinized names, the given names are Latinized, but bynames are often identical to the vernacular forms. This is even true for patronymic bynames..." https://heraldry.sca.org/names/resources/hungarian.html
So St. Francis of Assisi was clearly venerated in Hungary in SCA period and was therefore in the naming pool for a Christian given names, certainly the Latin feminine of Franciscus documented to 1574 above, i.e. Francisca, and it's plausible spelling variants.
Byname/Surname[edit | edit source]
- Documentation for name
Combination[edit | edit source]
Cultural and Temporal Compatibility
- SENA PN.2. Personal Names Style, Name Requirements
- Within 500 years if in same naming group
- Within 300 years if in compatible naming groups
- SENA Appendix C: Regional Naming Groups and Their Mixes
- 550-1100 - Hungarian, Romanian, etc. - compatible with German, North Slavic, South Slavic
- 1100-1600 - Hungarian, Romanian, etc. - compatible with German, Mongol (per Sept 2012 CL), North Slavic, South Slavic
Need documentation of compatibility if cultures are not on the above list