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See also:
[[Conflict Checking]]
* [[Conflict Checking]]
[[Permission to Conflict]]
* [[Permission to Conflict]]
* [[Field Conflicts]]


Cross Conflict Table - http://heralds.artemisia.sca.org/crosstable.html
Cross Conflict Table - http://heralds.artemisia.sca.org/crosstable.html
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Posture Conflict Table - http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/posture.html
Posture Conflict Table - http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/posture.html


=Precedents:=  
=Precedents:=  
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Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)<br>
Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)<br>
'' '''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.''' ''
'' '''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.''' ''
==November 2022 CL - Sounds That Are Similar==
This month, we considered whether or not the bynames Bond and Pond were too similar in sound and appearance to allow them to be clear under PN3C3. The decision to consider these sounds in conflict was based on how we create the sounds of consonants, as reflected in the International Phonetic Alphabet, or IPA. More information on IPA can be found here: http://dialectblog.com/the-international-phonetic-alphabet/ipa-consonants/. IPA groups sounds by the way that we create them in the mouth (consonant position) and the type of sound that is created (manner of articulation). This tool should help to demonstrate why some sounds are too similar to register, even when they visually look different, and why the exception to SENA PN3C3 exists.
https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2021/11/21-11cl.html#2


==March 2021 CL - substantial difference for field changes not just for field-primary:==  
==March 2021 CL - substantial difference for field changes not just for field-primary:==  
From Wreath: Change to SENA A5F
From Wreath: Change to SENA A5F
The December 23rd Rules Letter proposed changes to SENA A5F to allow a substantial difference for changes to the field for all fielded armory, not just field-primary armory. Those suggestions, with some modifications are accepted. The revised wording for A5F:
F. Standards for Difference through a Single Substantial Change of Field for Fielded Armory: A new submission does not conflict with a piece of protected armory if the two fields have a substantially different partition as defined below.
Field-primary armory, that is, armory which has no primary charge group, including armory with peripheral ordinaries, whether they are charged or uncharged, may also be clear of conflict by the addition or removal of a primary charge group, as described in A.5.E.1 above. Field-primary armory may also derive substantial difference from a substantial change of tincture as defined below.
All fielded armory may also be clear of conflict by having two independent changes, including two independent changes to the field itself, as described in A.5.G.1 below.
1. Substantial Change of Partition: A new submission is clear of any other piece of protected armory when it substantially changes the partitioning of the field.
a. Total Addition or Removal of Division: Any divided field has a substantially changed partition from any plain field. The multiply divided furs are considered plain fields for this purpose.
For example, Per pale azure and vert is substantially different from Vert, and thus clear of conflict with it. It is also substantially different from Vair or Potent.


NOTE: Section A5F1b is unchanged...
The December 23rd Rules Letter proposed changes to SENA A5F to allow a substantial difference for changes to the field for all fielded armory, not just field-primary armory. Those suggestions, with some modifications are accepted.  ''[See [http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/sena.html#A5F A.5.F] for the revised wording.]''


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From Wreath: Change to SENA A5G1
From Wreath: Change to SENA A5G1
The December 23rd Rules Letter proposed changes to SENA A5G1 to allow all fielded armory to receive multiple DCs for changes to the field which previously only applied to field-primary armory. Those changes are accepted. The revised wording is:
The December 23rd Rules Letter proposed changes to SENA A5G1 to allow all fielded armory to receive multiple DCs for changes to the field which previously only applied to field-primary armory. Those changes are accepted. ''[See [http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/sena.html#A5G A.5.G] for the revised wording.]''
 
1. Changes to the Field: Distinctly changing the tinctures, direction of partition lines, style of partition lines, or number of pieces in a partition of the field is one distinct change (DC).
 
Armory can be cleared of conflict by a single substantial change to the field as described in A.5.F above, through two distinct changes under this rule, or through two distinct changes under any combination of rules in A.5.G, including changes to peripheral ordinaries and tertiary charges on them.
 
For example, Per chevron argent and azure, a lion gules does not conflict with Chevronelly argent and sable, a lion gules; there is a DC for changing at least half the tincture of the field (A5G1a), and a DC for changing the number of pieces of the field (A5G1d). For example, Per pale indented argent and azure, a lion gules does not conflict with Per fess argent and azure, a lion gules; there is a DC for changing the direction of the partition lines (A5G1b), and a DC for changing the style of the partition lines (A5G1c). For example, Per pale azure and argent, a lion gules has one DC from Per pale azure and bendy argent and sable, a lion gules (A5G1d), but does not receive a DC for the difference in tincture (A5G1a) as it is less than half of the field.


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Glossary of Terms:[edit | edit source]

A submission which is too similar to a protected item is said to be in conflict. The Rules for Submission define name conflict in Part V and armory conflict in Part X. http://heraldry.sca.org/coagloss.html

See also:

Cross Conflict Table - http://heralds.artemisia.sca.org/crosstable.html

Flower Conflict Table - http://216.164.21.74/~lewis/SCA/Heraldry/Tools/flowers.html

Line of Division Conflict Table - http://webpages.charter.net/bobjames/lines.htm

Lingual Weirdness Table - http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/weirdness_table.html

Name Conflict Tables - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/ConflictTables.html

Posture Conflict Table - http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/posture.html

Precedents:[edit | edit source]

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html
Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)
Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.

November 2022 CL - Sounds That Are Similar[edit | edit source]

This month, we considered whether or not the bynames Bond and Pond were too similar in sound and appearance to allow them to be clear under PN3C3. The decision to consider these sounds in conflict was based on how we create the sounds of consonants, as reflected in the International Phonetic Alphabet, or IPA. More information on IPA can be found here: http://dialectblog.com/the-international-phonetic-alphabet/ipa-consonants/. IPA groups sounds by the way that we create them in the mouth (consonant position) and the type of sound that is created (manner of articulation). This tool should help to demonstrate why some sounds are too similar to register, even when they visually look different, and why the exception to SENA PN3C3 exists. https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2021/11/21-11cl.html#2

March 2021 CL - substantial difference for field changes not just for field-primary:[edit | edit source]

From Wreath: Change to SENA A5F

The December 23rd Rules Letter proposed changes to SENA A5F to allow a substantial difference for changes to the field for all fielded armory, not just field-primary armory. Those suggestions, with some modifications are accepted. [See A.5.F for the revised wording.]

https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2021/03/21-03cl.html

March 2021 CL - multiple DCs for field changes not just for field-primary:[edit | edit source]

From Wreath: Change to SENA A5G1 The December 23rd Rules Letter proposed changes to SENA A5G1 to allow all fielded armory to receive multiple DCs for changes to the field which previously only applied to field-primary armory. Those changes are accepted. [See A.5.G for the revised wording.]

https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2021/03/21-03cl.html


Collected Precedents:[edit | edit source]

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