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[[File:UniverseelWapenboek_c1558_KM1008_Goutty.jpg|129x169px|Goutty]] | [[File:UniverseelWapenboek_c1558_KM1008_Goutty.jpg|129x169px|Goutty]] |
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Illustrations:[edit | edit source]
Period source/s:[edit | edit source]
Goutty Goutty
Modern[edit | edit source]
Pictorial Dictionary of SCA Heraldry (3rd edition):[edit | edit source]
Vector Graphics:[edit | edit source]
Book of Traceable Heraldic Art
Annotated Pennsic Traceable Art Project[edit | edit source]
Special names for tinctured gouttes[edit | edit source]
From the Heraldic Primer - http://heraldry.sca.org/primer/goutes.html
Gouttes are stylized drops of differing types. They are rarely seen alone and when there is a semy of gouttes, it is called goutty. The gouttes of each tincture have special names which are sometimes used instead of their tincture:
A goutte d'eau. (A goutte argent.) | A goutte de larmes. (A goutte azure.) | A goutte de sangue. (A goutte gules.) | A goutte d'or. (A goutte Or.) |
A goutte de vin. (A goutte purpure.) | A goutte de poix. (A goutte sable.) | A "goutte d'huile. (A goutte vert.) | |
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Mnemonic song for remembering the names for gouttes:[edit | edit source]
"The Sangue des gouttes"
(by Master Iulstan Sigewealding)
D'eau: a goutte, a silver goutte.
D'or: a drop of golden sun.
D'huile: a name for olive gouttes.
Poix: a pitch-drop on the run.
Sangue: a needle-prick that's bled.
Larmes: the tears of blue that flow.
Vin: a drink with thou and bread
That will bring us back to d'eau d'eau d'eau d'eau ...
[tune from the Sound of Music]
Precedents:[edit | edit source]
Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html
Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)
Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.
Definition:[edit | edit source]
(includes defaults, proper tinctures, blazoning)
March 2013 - acceptible shapes[edit | edit source]
From Wreath: The Shape of Things -- Gouttes Commenters were recently asked to find period depictions of gouttes, to better determine whether teardrop-shaped gouttes are acceptable or not.
Gouttes are fairly rare in period heraldry. The vast majority were drawn with quite distinct wavy tails. There were two counter examples found:
- Virgil Raber, Wappenbuch der Arlberg-Bruderschaft 1548, on page 861 (found at http://bilderserver.at/wappenbuecher/VirgilRaberEXAv2_52z2/ ). These are clearly teardrop-shaped elongated gouttes.
- Afonzo V of Portugal's emblem of a spinning paddle wheel spraying droplets as seen in the late 15th Century Flemish Pastrana Tapestries (image at http://www.nga.gov/press/event/3344_event.shtm ). Most of the gouttes here are wavy-tailed, but some are simply embowed, as being flung from the paddles.
The gouttes in Afonzo V's emblem cannot be described as discrete charges, while the ones in the Virgil Raber Wappenbuch can be. We are less concerned with the depiction of essentially maintained charges treated as artistic detailing, such as with the drops of water flung from Afonzo V's paddle wheel, or with drops of blood coming from a couped head. For non-maintained or otherwise artistic charges, however, given the evidence we express a strong preference for the traditional wavy-tailed gouttes. Teardrop shaped gouttes are registerable as long as they are elongated, more than twice as long as they are wide. Any other shape will be returned after the October 2013 decision meetings.
October 2012 - gouttes not "simple geometric form"[edit | edit source]
From Wreath: The Shape of Things -- Gouttes In August 1996, when ruling that gouttes could not be voided, the Cover Letter of the LoAR stated:
- While it is true that goutes in period were occasionally drawn like a modern teardrop, that form was the exception, not the rule. The more standard period form looks like a thin drop with a long wavy tail which is not a "simple geometric form".
This ruling apparently was repeating an earlier ruling from the August 1995 LoAR, which said "there are period examples of tear-drop goutes..." An inspection of the commentary at the time, however, provided no actual evidence aside from a statement by one commenter. We invite commenters to provide information regarding period depictions of gouttes. Specifically, we are wishing to find any attestations of teardrop shaped gouttes, or gouttes shaped in ways other than the standard thin drop with a long wavy tail.
Registerability:[edit | edit source]
(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)
Conflict:[edit | edit source]
Identifiability:[edit | edit source]
Collected Precedents:[edit | edit source]
- 2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - Collected Armory Precedents
- 1st Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - Collected Armory Precedents
- The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - GOUTTE
- The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - Collected Armory Precedents
- 1st Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - Collected Armory Precedents
- The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - Collected Armory Precedents
- The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - Single HTML Document
- 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) -
- The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - Collected precedents
- 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -
- The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - Collected Precedents
- The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - Single HTML Document
- The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - Collected Precedents
Ordinary[edit | edit source]
(includes icicle)
- Gout - see Goute]
- Goute - Argent]
- Goute - Azure]
- Goute - Fur]
- Goute - Gules]
- Goute - Multicolor]
- Goute - Or]
- Goute - Purpure]
- Goute - Sable]
- Goute - Vert]
- Goutte - see Goute]
- Goutty - see Goute]