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Basic Information:
Many combinations of argent and Or (white/silver and yellow/gold), especially argent on Or and Or on argent, would be considered low contrast and would be un-registerable using the Core Style rules. They would have to be registered as an Individually Attested Pattern formerly known as a Regional Style Exception. See SENA - http:heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#A4
Tincture IAP Database on Google Drive: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsKqJkKo3DKgdDdxMEdBeHhhREpycS1PWjEtd05DMmc&usp=sharing
Form to add new examples to the Tincture IAP Database on Google Drive: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1PGElgT_98WQK-HksxXOpbqc8SN6EPXXTJ-fvigbA0M8/viewform
Or & Argent, December 31, 1994 by Archbishop Bruno Bernard Heim - research into the development of the Rule of Tinctures as regards metal on metal by someone whose own family arms are metal-on-metal.
Period Examples:
Link to Tincture IAP Spreadsheet on Google Docs
- [[1]]
Form to add new examples to the Tincture IAP Spreadsheet (please share!)
Anglo-French
Germanic
Regional Exceptions to the Rule of Tincture, Vol. 01 (German) - [[2]]
Regional Exceptions to the Rule of Tincture, Vol. 02 (more German) - [[3]]
The Zurich Roll (@http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ZurichRoll/) has these:
- #124 SWANDEG: Argent, an ibex statant sable within a bordure or.
- #150 SCHINKEN: Azure, on a mullet of eight points or a trimount couped argent.
| File:UniverseelWapenboek hm1080 scalyVSvair contrast.jpg |
| c.1558 Universeel Wapenboek, KM1080, scaly vs. vair? argent on argent/Or? |
The below blazons are not attested, merely reference notes:
@http://www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_151_Siebmacher.htm Argent bend on Or with tertiary good contrast critter pierced by sword.
@http://www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_151_Siebmacher.htm Argent bend on Or with three good contrast tertiaries.
@http://www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_153_Siebmacher.htm Argent, a saltire couped Or
@http://www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_156_Siebmacher.htm Per pale argent and Or, two axes adorsed counterchanged hafted proper?.
@http://www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_156_Siebmacher.htm Or flower pot with high contrast flowers planted in the pot on argent field.
@http://www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_161_Siebmacher.htm Argent field with what might be Or spears, if the g is meant to be the spear tincture. The spears do not look Or.
@http://www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_162_Siebmacher.htm Argent a bend Or.
@http://www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_163_Siebmacher.htm Or a bird of some type rising reguardant?
@http://www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_167_Siebmacher.htm Or a fess wavy ermine? argent with diapering? argent semy of things sable?
@http://www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_168_Siebmacher.htm Argent a torse gules banded argent with six large Or leaves sticking out of it in annulo with stems to center.
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_172_Siebmacher.htm&h=HAQHMh3YT&enc=AZNk4kuR7Omhgt9HsANTcE5aV-kv1M4bsrwd6f6IhyyKxk5Tj8-uhsuytgyMi1ET8mhYSHZIAcKtDRBJeL9_5OybnLfl3Wl_h0Q8MVHiHpUh0hy_RqryWqMJkaFyv2amscTOOHmQANms5CfUGFkw9NTV&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_172_Siebmacher.htm]] Argent three birds some light tincture
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_178_Siebmacher.htm&h=LAQG6wzWP&enc=AZMD9jFneN6upTWj2b9vkTObqEd8AtHWqjedy7jvXORMwdPY1_5vcAOkUsq6QH4bxqCIIpBL0P4eNse5o82KVjVNOxjspqRLisjMTTbLFgR-olfofc-LVDNIKV8ZqwgEBH04vPncwIwYQSbPsQUC71qw&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_178_Siebmacher.htm]] Argent a sprig of three leaves Or stemmed brown (a tree Or?)
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_178_Siebmacher.htm&h=VAQEmIqVU&enc=AZPyajf9ncABeN-SNoZMEeYh36LGCs9IVNXlGIEaNQCvsS2u326cSLygBAonJf-egvKIM8WX6NTOZERDfnLL87604jXNz930sz7l6oDAK7M3756UkRtUGEb9lmaPiLRdKg7s9p1s1AX_2Iz_ZBY5zq2B&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_178_Siebmacher.htm]]Lachner--is this unpainted or is it really argent on argent?
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_187_Siebmacher.htm&h=5AQE5lt_L&enc=AZM7mUuNKbCO52nLOo6xmAnoI2cWXZJnd-LA_pA807k4EhkDCGE_phKguOOi0dvRlNwviRhRxaI_6c-HrnmZmXj05OGRnDqkOeZIYna2Nm6Lc_7TF4qZ_aVntWTobYcg0nPLAV1ywWh_-vhzMida5sZ7&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_187_Siebmacher.htm]] Or, on a bend argent three roses gules
@http://www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_189_Siebmacher.htm Die Falcken--is the bird Or (giving us Or on Or) or is it brown?
@http://www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_210_Siebmacher.htm Sable, on a bend wavy Or three critters Or. Did they not finish painting this?
@http://www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_215_Siebmacher.htm Sable, on a saltire Or a mullet of six sable within a horseshoe Or (brown?). Did they not finish painting the horseshoe. is it Or, or is it brown?
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_216_Siebmacher.htm&h=wAQFG6at0&enc=AZN0Ro9Nd5dl1Ljtn7spN1m2KngF3JR6nJ_91MFoWLkScZ5FykhaqO6MQ67sZqhAKbVyN_2K9gStC4JRV2uZJdDcI_eZKie95ua_V_HQFhsELW_DOa3FHUYnvLyUgDJmyS4g2dNmrT1R-RaLXN3EOhyL&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_216_Siebmacher.htm]] Per fess gules and argent, three mullets of six Or. (Yes, the field is neutral but only for a large central charge or a bordure or orle.)
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_220_Siebmacher.htm&h=lAQFD7E_G&enc=AZPWHikurswI-lU12_jANLNQWxL0WlB0Thin2Pn35ArsmFtCQcgEjiog5qm4c8BMlYuEoLuEV28czAwFPoGCTwTpwOKn8MbEm0PJKNPisg4uRZPjWkgh0D_uq52CyiI5E6sxmg0f7H4MQWDWfm19pc9G&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_220_Siebmacher.htm]] Argent six fleurs-de-lys Or. Did they finish painting this?
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_221_Siebmacher.htm&h=xAQGyKO8X&enc=AZMzHzUajh31emIqftqpcdg-KihP9TuLirGhsHdBK-1G32kNsxNofldHrR-v9ycRs-5LDsO9FDszqCwMreXPseirxCjob4MYQV0Ibcm8cg-K3JiaRS6maxtnclkz_ZQDN6gOVC9Sy1jPzkVnUL5Jsm1r&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_221_Siebmacher.htm]] Or a weird castle-type building argent.
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_221_Siebmacher.htm&h=zAQG830TG&enc=AZPte6eRgBr6lSaDApao8tEs2O16Gwvd09gjN7MU7s6z-R1KIkL0ZWTUbTZUzoA6QLraJliv_uUIUqJixzJDGEWxWw6a0goXDrrxvyuzRGEUKFbQb0BfdptC-hwRP6tH5HHxflBqO40EIEmSlQ9vmaf8&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_221_Siebmacher.htm]] Argent, a cross Or
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_221_Siebmacher.htm&h=tAQGEldbs&enc=AZOZgdMFmVUGRy-q-3oNjy-pF_fUyTzKYm4AghZkjc-vWndoTbOQ5-C-POXb2ig1dopc9MDCcQZH21xyBxAwaQCO6vkfsuXN3ePVD6NjYZ80wyZB6N_Ckm_WcDx6Apn7LgFuyCz7PnIS-_KnBR9XDaAI&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_221_Siebmacher.htm]] Or, a three towered castle argent
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_222_Siebmacher.htm&h=LAQG6wzWP&enc=AZOo8ETV3lFLSt-ukCuJPxEpwuzKAVa5eVxDs-b7BVp8Ho_wBR9GpHcbT2Eh_M6AFlMbHCvbvnA3flGuoYfBnXKUae0ws0loU75DWjD5Gt_MjcBP4kyGAeigfRbv5TBGHBGwGrq692QwEQfUX44Mek2_&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_222_Siebmacher.htm]] Or a two towered castle Or maintaining a lion sable
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_223_Siebmacher.htm&h=jAQFZnyV2&enc=AZNbGAg1fcgOAAZtXBRiX_K07nWT9R1mtV81kZ00PJYUSRlfTDrv-MZ6O42uwYmODlhkayGyyW86GwZdG-A-amHKD9WT7h_OXR0qa9Ro-kls1Pth-NyDaemgMo3H6GuiTttfRbTXNckKNQ2x6k7WSLeI&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_223_Siebmacher.htm]] Marpvrg Is the horse light blue or is it argent?
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_223_Siebmacher.htm&h=cAQH8YEmQ&enc=AZMIY4ik6U1Cx5vIE0qCxb3NUmvWLEnNkbwYpLtG6MpF6JquiaZHver4336bKV04GlDRG57MdMqg87tbELsEWsuAFXVlXkKpZjMnWgoOx9ylEuyGqQjfaFOnKMt0meCvTODQNMTe7SL3tPw7ILRvp1a3&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_223_Siebmacher.htm]] Or two towers argent maintaining a rose gules.
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_225_Siebmacher.htm&h=1AQF696iG&enc=AZNo8XFeHKoe8yikMh0Gz0--KYC6PeMPxVlYgUtEaSObnQTspSNT_whR1Vat_M6iQ3h7rYWmjHfaqaOlpsP2Br3rW8a5FeKF4h4wElDhzLixnhbxBhFwnKu06_4hUFfcvaTKcblSpP_tDFJOHQ0ba2Og&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_225_Siebmacher.htm]] Argent, a castle argent. This also has three roses gules and a very small trimount/mount vert - the roses are much smaller than the castle.
@http://www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_226_Siebmacher.htm Argent, a church argent roofed gules.
@http://www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_28_Siebmacher.htm Or, a pale sable, overall an eagle argent
@http://www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_30_Siebmacher.htm Argent a horse salient Or
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_36_Siebmacher.htm&h=yAQFSXGfQ&enc=AZN6jwIOVFsruVTfJxXOGG9BeLDLuOP1EaqY6Y_X1D7ZZafekaZykX5xaOjW1JwZHylPW3qMQQZqH4W3_vMHDzwDg1a_xrjWKw4VIzJb41OmRwkPgCr2tdASjVqvGeudWnlZEgdPDypXUWUh6BJ_Q5Bw&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_36_Siebmacher.htm]] Gules, on a bend argent, three mullets of six Or.
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_36_Siebmacher.htm&h=6AQFs5vCf&enc=AZOaVTTYTKLlIbwZuSPjOhR_-Szu3rMNExU3mPTmZKIOf6ZQcFW3Op5hC426KpVwCgPAkdYWH0NtW6-FgiOe2IkEG8kJt_S2pvzhk6WyAaZfNdM0sOKN0d6cJhnG98kfHjVm_1k1Z7ymLX16fFSiUoR3&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_36_Siebmacher.htm]] Per fess embattled(?), argent and sable, in chief a leaf issuant from the division Or
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_45_Siebmacher.htm&h=hAQFbtf3v&enc=AZMfloTfTybQTctE0Wm45d_kqLTAFv75TRsSO23qT_yJLh3LOu7wkgPNV2wHH0oeyAi0C1aChkcBWNS4BWTeGWfM74FVloK-83ZITkV8xyVTbMDmj1HRQGfbb1hLmOMzNQ93A22KwZqGN9OTGQw8LDrg&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_45_Siebmacher.htm]] Or a demibear sable, maintaining a weird-looking curved stick, issuant from a trimount argent
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_49a_Siebmacher.htm&h=0AQGP76Cw&enc=AZPNiS0QmqmgNfKxFKcr6G_pustKzqAzmf95jilTAo1XzckJCVtF6E5vMFNyCnRSjhnmmU6L26VJmsLkbjcEj79SCW7nOaIKqtl664aQ3BCVJDbm_gX9RmVnkyGRBpBLY26z0EHvubvIymYLKi8HvZrx&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_49a_Siebmacher.htm]] Azure, on a bend argent, an arrow inverted Or.
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_62_Siebmacher.htm&h=XAQEnWZrh&enc=AZOny3i1vCEQjecpJFO93aa6B5AjtJsT7eqFcP5XzkqlHG_64v6ypv5iBOmB0D--ttBkikISc4pLQ9ukOUPWixvc4XnbX9jshxzEOIapUPim8viLt_eUBNE9y-8kHc1DWc6d3s-9yQ2tqz7c_BWmdhzt&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_62_Siebmacher.htm]] Argent, three flag/flagpoles issuant from a trimount Or. The flags themselves are divided per fess Or and gules. The flagpoles are gules.
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_70_Siebmacher.htm&h=nAQFULKfy&enc=AZN27JSCAUUnQJ3o75DWqZOwa_fM8K7hsni2Sdf-_CWjqobEr5Tl_PAfeo6rXY8En0DDza-ORE8pXzfXMSVUjvwGy2OO7cx7RDgbhlpxyROR-dc0wNsqEXsMQIsylNmlzQA1fj8jnh_HFPU3Jy_ktibo&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_70_Siebmacher.htm]] Argent, on a bend Or, three roses azure.
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_90_Siebmacher.htm&h=dAQH3kGmV&enc=AZNB4xBztOfEHAi_2ShFW71zomeUkuxTLKA-n3YRGlyVnhKrYi2oy6OpDwy1xhoirZ8PmoAdKkmq3l88CW291-MGazRpE4ADSu5a5X0IND3R3LkhtRSfls7wdroMras696LV-OuAE3lAS9kicKIy_Vg6&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_90_Siebmacher.htm]] Azure, on a bend argent fimbriated, three fleurs-de-lys Or.
[[@http:l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wappenbuch.de%2Fpages%2Fwappen_95_Siebmacher.htm&h=uAQHK-LWd&enc=AZNodmSWJbiH-1BOUUVI4PL7a2qeQFa4tgI5mB1H-_jeaOk6t_7PTeLvBYpRfl2MgYqxh4_jXNbBqSIxU25PZfOk8PhaJdFu--E4P4wkGjcYOz2m-FClChe6t5Pp59XTB0y90-rRntJdqR8MWIGfODKe&s=1|http:www.wappenbuch.de/pages/wappen_95_Siebmacher.htm]] Argent, a human robed gules...issuant from a trimount Or
Italian:
Insignia Venetorum II BSB 271, plate 185 (f ?), Chalbani - Bendy Or and argent. [[4]]
Milanese Armorial BSB 270, plate 113, folio 52r, De Basis - Bendy argent and Or, a chief Or. [[5]]
Insignia Venetorum III BSB 272, folio 134r, Di Gorni - Gyronny Or fimbriated argent (?), 6 mullets-of-six argent. [[6]]
Ibid, plate 139, folio 65r, De Baziis - Paly argent and Or, a chief Or [[7]]
| Insignia | Insignia | BSB272, | Stemmario |
| [[File:https:fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10422025_429686063848386_7403917701348473307_n.jpg?oh=f492d8de7a6de4dec7b5eccfdf980e3e&oe=550505FC&gda=1426083872_78e94669b17410a30846c91d8022fd89|127x191px|BSB]] | BSB |
Iberian:
Portuguese armorial with two checky argent and Or...
| Livro | Armas | Armas |
From Großes Wappenbuch, enthaltend die Wappen der deutschen Kaiser, der europäischen Königs- und Fürstenhäuser, der Päpste und Kardinäle, Bischöfe und Äbte bis zu den lebenden Repräsentanten zur Zeit der Regentschaft Kaiser Rudolfs II. und Papst Gregors XIII. - Cod.icon. 333 [S.l.] Süddeutschland 1583 @http://codicon.digitale-sammlungen.de/Blatt_bsb00002481,00006.html (collected by Gunnvor silfrahar)
Bishop Caseln P: Argent, a saltire gules within a bordure Or. @http://codicon.digitale-sammlungen.de/1bsb00002481_00072.jpg
#x--Precedents:Precedents:
Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[8]] Morsulus Heralds Website - [[9]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents)
From the <month> <year> LoAR: