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===Misc. Precedents===
{| class="wikitable"
|François la Flamme
|2003.02
|Listed on the LoI as ''Medb ingen Mathghamhain'', this name was submitted as ''Medbh inghean Mathghamhain'' and was changed at Kingdom to match documented forms.
The byname ''ingen Mathghamhain'' combined the Middle Irish (c. 900 to c. 1200) ''ingen'' with the Early Modern Irish (c. 1200 to c. 1700) ''Mathghamhain'', and so violated RfS III.1.a, which requires linguistic consistency in a name phrase. Additionally, ''Mathghamhain'' is a nominative form, not a genitive form as required by Gaelic grammar in a byname. The fully Middle Irish form of this name is ''Medb ingen Mathgamna''. The fully Early Modern Irish form of this name is ''Meadhbh inghean Mhathghamhna''. As the Early Modern Irish form is the closer of these to the originally submitted form of this name, we have changed this name to that form in order to register this name. [Meadbh inghean Mhathghamhna, 02/2003 LoAR, A-Caid]
|-
|François la Flamme
|2001.08
|Listed on the LoI as ''Méabh inghean Thaidg ua Domnaill'', the submitter requested authenticity for 14th to 15th C Irish. The submitter documented ''Méabh'' from Ó Corráin & Maguire (p. 135 s. n. Medb). When multiple forms are listed after the colon in headers in OCM, the first form after the colon is usually a period form and the latter forms are usually modern. In this case, ''Méabh'' is almost certainly modern as it does not follow period spelling conventions. ['''Meadhbh inghean Thaidhg uí Domhnaill''', [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2001/08/01-08lar.html 08/01], A-Atlantia]
|-
|Jaelle of Armida
|1999.03
|[Medbh Gillacon] The name is being returned for lack of documentation for the given name. The documentation for the given name was taken from ''The Book of Irish Names'', which is not a reliable source. Furthermore, the form there was not ''Medbh'', but ''Meadhbh''. (Jaelle of Armida, LoAR March 1999, p. 10)
|}
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Misc. Precedents

François la Flamme 2003.02 Listed on the LoI as Medb ingen Mathghamhain, this name was submitted as Medbh inghean Mathghamhain and was changed at Kingdom to match documented forms.

The byname ingen Mathghamhain combined the Middle Irish (c. 900 to c. 1200) ingen with the Early Modern Irish (c. 1200 to c. 1700) Mathghamhain, and so violated RfS III.1.a, which requires linguistic consistency in a name phrase. Additionally, Mathghamhain is a nominative form, not a genitive form as required by Gaelic grammar in a byname. The fully Middle Irish form of this name is Medb ingen Mathgamna. The fully Early Modern Irish form of this name is Meadhbh inghean Mhathghamhna. As the Early Modern Irish form is the closer of these to the originally submitted form of this name, we have changed this name to that form in order to register this name. [Meadbh inghean Mhathghamhna, 02/2003 LoAR, A-Caid]

François la Flamme 2001.08 Listed on the LoI as Méabh inghean Thaidg ua Domnaill, the submitter requested authenticity for 14th to 15th C Irish. The submitter documented Méabh from Ó Corráin & Maguire (p. 135 s. n. Medb). When multiple forms are listed after the colon in headers in OCM, the first form after the colon is usually a period form and the latter forms are usually modern. In this case, Méabh is almost certainly modern as it does not follow period spelling conventions. [Meadhbh inghean Thaidhg uí Domhnaill08/01, A-Atlantia]
Jaelle of Armida 1999.03 [Medbh Gillacon] The name is being returned for lack of documentation for the given name. The documentation for the given name was taken from The Book of Irish Names, which is not a reliable source. Furthermore, the form there was not Medbh, but Meadhbh. (Jaelle of Armida, LoAR March 1999, p. 10)

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