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From the Caid LoI dated 2011-07-31: Melisande is found on p. 18 of Les généalogies et anciennes descentes des forestiers et comtes de Flandre by Pierre Balthasar ([[1]]), which was published in 1598. This should be sufficient to overturn the October 2009 ruling that there was no support for this spelling.


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Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[2]] Morsulus Heralds Website - [[3]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents)

From the October 2011 LoAR: Melisande McBride. Name and device. Argent, a rabbit rampant contourny sable and in chief a bee sable banded Or. McBride// is the submitter's legal surname. //Melisande had previously been ruled unregisterable. However the submitter gave proof that this spelling of the name appeared by 1598 (in historical accounts of the life of the 12th century queen of Jerusalem). Therefore it is registerable as a late period French literary name. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/10/11-10lar.html

From the October 2009 LoAR: #73Melisant de Bretagne. Name and device. Per chevron gules and Or, two rapiers inverted in chevron Or and a peacock feather proper. Submitted as Melisande de Bretagne, precedent says: > Milesenda de Bourges. Name. Submitted as Me__l__i__s__a__nd__e__ de Bourges//, several variant spellings of this name exist, but none that support the //-sande// spelling. Therefore, we have changed the given name to //M__i__l__e__s__e__nd__a//, a form documented from Morlet, //Les Noms de Personne sur le Territoire de L'Ancienne Gaule du VIe au XIIe Siècle. [LoAR 05/2004, East-A] Other period forms of the name include Melisent// 1202, //Melisant// 1213, //Milicenta//, //Millisenta// 1273, and //Mylisant// 1370, in Withycombe, //Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names//, s.n. Millicent; //Milisendis// 1179, //Milisent// and //Melisentia// 1208, in Reaney & Wilson, //A Dictionary of English Surnames//, s.n. Millicent; and //Melissent// and //Milessenz// in an Old French translation of William of Tyre's //Historia rerum in partibus transmarinis gestarum//. These examples do not support the variant form //Melisande//. We have changed the name to //Melisant de Bretagne, using the most similar spelling of the given name, in order to register it.