Deirdre

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Black, George F. The Surnames of Scotland. p. 204 s.n. Deirdre. The form Deredere is dated to 1166.

'Concerning the Name Deirdre by Josh Mittleman'

"The name appears in Irish literature as Derdriu (Early Gaelic), Deirdri and Deirdre (Middle Gaelic)[2] All of which were pronounced DEHR-dreh. [1,2] It is recorded in use once by a real person in Scotland in 1166, spelled Deredere [3], an anglicized spelling representing the same pronounciation."

http:medievalscotland.org/problem/names/deirdre.shtml

"Deirdre is a rare name, but one occasionally used in Gaelic speaking cultures at least in the 12th C. Therefore, we are declaring that Deirdre is no longer SCA-compatible; instead it is registerable as a normalized attested 12th C Gaelic name." [Deirdre Scot, 8/2006 LoAR, A-Æthelmearc]

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Precedents:

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Registerability:

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August 2006 - Deirdre as attested name

"Deirdre is a rare name, but one occasionally used in Gaelic speaking cultures at least in the 12th C. Therefore, we are declaring that Deirdre is no longer SCA-compatible; instead it is registerable as a normalized attested 12th C Gaelic name." [Deirdre Scot, 8/2006 LoAR, A-Æthelmearc]

http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2006/08/06-08lar.html

Collected Precedents:

Compiled Name Precedents:

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#DeirdreDeirdre
Shauna of Carrick Point	2004.04	By longstanding precedent, the Gaelic name Deirdre// is SCA-compatible. [Deirdre Oilithreach, 04/04, A-Caid]
François la Flamme	2003.10	[...] Deirdre is SCA compatible. [...] [Deirdre of Saint Brendan, 10/2003, A-Æthelmearc]
François la Flamme	2002.02	The submitter requested authenticity for Irish-German and allowed any changes. Lacking documentation that these two cultures had significant contact, combining Irish and German elements in a single name is not registerable. Deirdre// was documented from Withycombe (p. 81 s.n. Deirdre). However, this entry says that "its use as a christian name is quite recent, dating from the 'Celtic Revival' (Yeat's //Deirdre// 1907, Synge's //Deirdre of the Sorrows// 1910)." However, the spelling //Deirdre has long been SCA compatible. As it is a Gaelic given name, it is not registerable in combination with German elements per the precedent:
> [Hagen Seanaeiche] the combination of German forename and Gaelic byname needs justification, at the very least. None of the commenters noted any German/Gaelic interaction in period (see, e.g., RfS III.1., "As a rule of thumb, languages should be used together only if there was substantial contact between the cultures that spoke those languages." (Hagen Seanaeiche, Caid-R, LoAR 12/94)
Black (p. 204 s.n. Deirdre) dates Deredere// to 1166. Given that the source Black cites for this reference, //Deirdre// is a Latinized form of a Gaelic given name. Barring documentation of significant contact between Scottish Gaelic and German cultures, a name mixing Gaelic (including Latinized Gaelic) and German in a name is not registerable. [Deirdre Mueller von Thurn, 02/02, R-Calontir]
Elsbeth Anne Roth	2000.05	Submitted as Derdriu ingen Murcada// , it was noted in commentary that Ó Corrain and Maguire indicate that //Derdriu// is mythological. However, Black, sub //Deirdre// , has //Derdere, wife of Cospatric Earl// in 1166; this leads us to believe that the name is registerable. We have lenited the patronymic, though, to match documentation and to make it grammatically correct. [Derdriu ingen Mhurchadha, 05/00, A-Middle]
Elsbeth Anne Roth	2000.03	Deirdre is SCA-compatible. [Deirdre inghean Dhomhnaill mhic Maidecc, [[9]], A-Caid]
Elsbeth Anne Roth	2000.01	Deirdre// is SCA compatible. [Deirdre inghean Ghiolla Ruaidh, 01/00, A-Ansteorra]
Elsbeth Anne Roth	1999.011	Deirdre// is SCA compatible. [Deirdre the Wench, 11/99, A-Outlands]
Elsbeth Anne Roth	1999.10	Deirdre// is SCA compatible. [Deirdre Fallon, 10/99, A-Atlantia]
Jaelle of Armida	1998.03	[Deirdre Gilbride] Deirdre has been ruled SCA compatible. (Jaelle of Armida, LoAR March 1998, p. 1)

2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - to be included in Compiled Names Precedents above 1st Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - ditto

The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - Collected Name Precedents The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - [Name Precedents] The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - included in Compiled Names Precedents above The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - [Name Precedents] included in above The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - [returns by name] also in CNP above The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) - [returns by name] also in CNP above The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - [returns by name] also in CNP above The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) - [returns by name] also in CNP above The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - [returns by name] The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - [returns by name] The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - in Compiled Names Precedents above The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - in Compiled Names Precedents above The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - in Compiled Names Precedents above

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