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===Glossary of Terms:===  
=Glossary of Terms:=  
A submission which is too similar to a protected item is said to be in conflict. The Rules for Submission define name conflict in Part V and armory conflict in Part X.
A submission which is too similar to a protected item is said to be in conflict. The Rules for Submission define name conflict in Part V and armory conflict in Part X.
[[http://heraldry.sca.org/coagloss.html]]
http://heraldry.sca.org/coagloss.html
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[[Permission to Conflict]]
[[Permission to Conflict]]


Cross Conflict Table -
Cross Conflict Table - http://heralds.artemisia.sca.org/crosstable.html
[[http://heralds.artemisia.sca.org/crosstable.html]]
 
Flower Conflict Table - http://216.164.21.74/~lewis/SCA/Heraldry/Tools/flowers.html
 
Line of Division Conflict Table - http://webpages.charter.net/bobjames/lines.htm
 
Lingual Weirdness Table - http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/weirdness_table.html
 
Name Conflict Tables - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/ConflictTables.html
 
Posture Conflict Table - http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/posture.html
 
 
 
=Precedents:=
Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html<br>
Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)<br>
'' '''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.''' ''


Flower Conflict Table -
==March 2021 CL - substantial difference for field changes not just for field-primary:==
[[http://216.164.21.74/~lewis/SCA/Heraldry/Tools/flowers.html]]
From Wreath: Change to SENA A5F
The December 23rd Rules Letter proposed changes to SENA A5F to allow a substantial difference for changes to the field for all fielded armory, not just field-primary armory. Those suggestions, with some modifications are accepted. The revised wording for A5F:


Line of Division Conflict Table -
F. Standards for Difference through a Single Substantial Change of Field for Fielded Armory: A new submission does not conflict with a piece of protected armory if the two fields have a substantially different partition as defined below.
[[http://webpages.charter.net/bobjames/lines.htm]]


Lingual Weirdness Table -
Field-primary armory, that is, armory which has no primary charge group, including armory with peripheral ordinaries, whether they are charged or uncharged, may also be clear of conflict by the addition or removal of a primary charge group, as described in A.5.E.1 above. Field-primary armory may also derive substantial difference from a substantial change of tincture as defined below.
[[http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/weirdness_table.html]]


Name Conflict Tables -
All fielded armory may also be clear of conflict by having two independent changes, including two independent changes to the field itself, as described in A.5.G.1 below.
[[http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/ConflictTables.html]]


Posture Conflict Table -
1. Substantial Change of Partition: A new submission is clear of any other piece of protected armory when it substantially changes the partitioning of the field.
[[http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/posture.html]]


a. Total Addition or Removal of Division: Any divided field has a substantially changed partition from any plain field. The multiply divided furs are considered plain fields for this purpose.


For example, Per pale azure and vert is substantially different from Vert, and thus clear of conflict with it. It is also substantially different from Vair or Potent.


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NOTE: Section A5F1b is unchanged...
===<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:]]Precedents:</span>===
 
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html]]</span>
https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2021/03/21-03cl.html
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Morsulus Heralds Website - [[http://www.morsulus.org/]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents)</span>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Restatement Wiki - [[http://yehudaheraldry.com/restatement/index.php?title=Main_Page]] (restatements of Precedents)</span>
''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">'''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.'''</span>''


====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Definition:]]<u>'''Definition:'''</u></span>====  
==March 2021 CL - multiple DCs for field changes not just for field-primary:==  


From Wreath: Change to SENA A5G1
The December 23rd Rules Letter proposed changes to SENA A5G1 to allow all fielded armory to receive multiple DCs for changes to the field which previously only applied to field-primary armory. Those changes are accepted. The revised wording is:


====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Registerability:]]<u>'''Registerability:'''</u></span>====
1. Changes to the Field: Distinctly changing the tinctures, direction of partition lines, style of partition lines, or number of pieces in a partition of the field is one distinct change (DC).
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)</span>


====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Conflict:]]<u>'''Conflict:'''</u></span>====
Armory can be cleared of conflict by a single substantial change to the field as described in A.5.F above, through two distinct changes under this rule, or through two distinct changes under any combination of rules in A.5.G, including changes to peripheral ordinaries and tertiary charges on them.


For example, Per chevron argent and azure, a lion gules does not conflict with Chevronelly argent and sable, a lion gules; there is a DC for changing at least half the tincture of the field (A5G1a), and a DC for changing the number of pieces of the field (A5G1d). For example, Per pale indented argent and azure, a lion gules does not conflict with Per fess argent and azure, a lion gules; there is a DC for changing the direction of the partition lines (A5G1b), and a DC for changing the style of the partition lines (A5G1c). For example, Per pale azure and argent, a lion gules has one DC from Per pale azure and bendy argent and sable, a lion gules (A5G1d), but does not receive a DC for the difference in tincture (A5G1a) as it is less than half of the field.


====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Identifiability:]]<u>'''Identifiability:'''</u></span>====
https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2021/03/21-03cl.html




====<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">[[#x--Precedents:-Collected Precedents:]]'''<u>Collected Precedents:</u>'''</span>====
==Collected Precedents:==  
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008)</span>'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;"> - n/a</span>
* 2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory2.html Collected Armory Precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - </span>'''<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium;">[[http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/armoryprec.html#CONFLICT|CONFLICT]]</span>
* 1st Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elisabeth/armory.html Collected Armory Precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) -</span>'''
* The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - [http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/armoryprec.html#CONFLICT CONFLICT]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) -</span>'''
* The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/shauna/armory.html Collected Armory Precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) -</span>'''
* 1st Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/francois/wreath.html Collected Armory Precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) -</span>'''
* The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elsbeth/armory.html Collected Armory Precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) -</span>'''
* The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/jaeprec.html Single HTML Document]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) -</span>'''
* 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) -
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -</span>'''
** [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/volume3.html the 1st part (Nov 1993 - June 1994)] and
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - </span>'''[[http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/alisoun/AMEA.html#AUTOMATICSUFFICIENTDIFFERENCE|Automatic Sufficient Difference]]
** [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/daudIITOC.html the 2nd part (July 1994 - June 1996)]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) -</span>'''
* The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/bruce/ Collected precedents]
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) -</span>'''
* 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) -</span>'''
**  [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1toc.html the 1st year (June 1990 - June 1991)] and
'''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - </span>'''
**  [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1btoc.html the 2nd year (July 1991 - June 1992)]
* The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/alisoun/AMETOP.html Collected Precedents]
* The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/baldwin.html Single HTML Document]
* The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/wilhelm/volume3.html Collected Precedents]
* The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/karina/volume2.html Collected Precedents]
* The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - [http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/early/volume1.html Collected Precedents]




[[Category:Armory]] [[Category:Need Work]]
[[Category:Armory]] [[Category:Rules]]

Revision as of 18:49, 26 June 2021

WARNING: Do not cite this page as a reference. This page is on this wiki to make the content "searchable" and easier to find. If you find the information you seek here, go to the original sources to verify the information and use them for your documentation.

Glossary of Terms:

A submission which is too similar to a protected item is said to be in conflict. The Rules for Submission define name conflict in Part V and armory conflict in Part X. http://heraldry.sca.org/coagloss.html


See also: Conflict Checking Permission to Conflict

Cross Conflict Table - http://heralds.artemisia.sca.org/crosstable.html

Flower Conflict Table - http://216.164.21.74/~lewis/SCA/Heraldry/Tools/flowers.html

Line of Division Conflict Table - http://webpages.charter.net/bobjames/lines.htm

Lingual Weirdness Table - http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/weirdness_table.html

Name Conflict Tables - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/ConflictTables.html

Posture Conflict Table - http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/posture.html


Precedents:

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html
Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)
Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.

March 2021 CL - substantial difference for field changes not just for field-primary:

From Wreath: Change to SENA A5F The December 23rd Rules Letter proposed changes to SENA A5F to allow a substantial difference for changes to the field for all fielded armory, not just field-primary armory. Those suggestions, with some modifications are accepted. The revised wording for A5F:

F. Standards for Difference through a Single Substantial Change of Field for Fielded Armory: A new submission does not conflict with a piece of protected armory if the two fields have a substantially different partition as defined below.

Field-primary armory, that is, armory which has no primary charge group, including armory with peripheral ordinaries, whether they are charged or uncharged, may also be clear of conflict by the addition or removal of a primary charge group, as described in A.5.E.1 above. Field-primary armory may also derive substantial difference from a substantial change of tincture as defined below.

All fielded armory may also be clear of conflict by having two independent changes, including two independent changes to the field itself, as described in A.5.G.1 below.

1. Substantial Change of Partition: A new submission is clear of any other piece of protected armory when it substantially changes the partitioning of the field.

a. Total Addition or Removal of Division: Any divided field has a substantially changed partition from any plain field. The multiply divided furs are considered plain fields for this purpose.

For example, Per pale azure and vert is substantially different from Vert, and thus clear of conflict with it. It is also substantially different from Vair or Potent.

NOTE: Section A5F1b is unchanged...

https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2021/03/21-03cl.html

March 2021 CL - multiple DCs for field changes not just for field-primary:

From Wreath: Change to SENA A5G1 The December 23rd Rules Letter proposed changes to SENA A5G1 to allow all fielded armory to receive multiple DCs for changes to the field which previously only applied to field-primary armory. Those changes are accepted. The revised wording is:

1. Changes to the Field: Distinctly changing the tinctures, direction of partition lines, style of partition lines, or number of pieces in a partition of the field is one distinct change (DC).

Armory can be cleared of conflict by a single substantial change to the field as described in A.5.F above, through two distinct changes under this rule, or through two distinct changes under any combination of rules in A.5.G, including changes to peripheral ordinaries and tertiary charges on them.

For example, Per chevron argent and azure, a lion gules does not conflict with Chevronelly argent and sable, a lion gules; there is a DC for changing at least half the tincture of the field (A5G1a), and a DC for changing the number of pieces of the field (A5G1d). For example, Per pale indented argent and azure, a lion gules does not conflict with Per fess argent and azure, a lion gules; there is a DC for changing the direction of the partition lines (A5G1b), and a DC for changing the style of the partition lines (A5G1c). For example, Per pale azure and argent, a lion gules has one DC from Per pale azure and bendy argent and sable, a lion gules (A5G1d), but does not receive a DC for the difference in tincture (A5G1a) as it is less than half of the field.

https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2021/03/21-03cl.html


Collected Precedents: