Gore, Gusset

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There has been some concern that gores were not actually used in period armory [but see below]. Apparently there are period heraldic tracts that describe it as "an abatement of honor" (i.e., a mark of disgrace). However, since tracts such as Legh's "Accedence of Armory", 1562, mention the gore, it's been accepted for Society use.

Guillim in A Display of Heraldry 1611 ( https://books.google.com/books?id=LbxWXIFDr30C&printsec ) also discusses gores.

Examples:

Period:

Familienwappen des Hohen Adels 40v-flowers-gore.png
Familienwappen des Hohen Adels, 40v, gore with flowers


Modern:

Pictorial Dictionary, 3rd edition:

Vector Graphics:

  • Viking Answer Lady - [[1]]


#Illustrations:-Modern:-Pennsic Traceable Art ProjectPennsic Traceable Art Project

#Sources:Sources:

Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - [[2]] Archive of St. Gabriel reports - [[3]] Laurel Armory Articles - [[4]]

New Heraldic Primer (Heraldry for Non-Heralds) - [[5]] Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry (PicDic), 3rd Edition - @http://mistholme.com/pictorial-dictionary-of-heraldry (in progress) Period Armorials

Parker's Heraldry - [[6]] Riestap's Armorial Général - //http:''www.euraldic.com/lasu/bl/bl_a_aa.html

Precedents:

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html
Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)

Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.

Definition:

Registerability:

(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)

January 2021 - On the Use of a Gore with Another Charge Directly on the Field

Since the May 2014 Cover Letter, there has been a step from period practice held for the use of a gore or a gusset with another charge directly on the field. At the time, research leading to this decision had failed to produce any evidence of gores beyond their appearance in treatises. This month, evidence of their use has now been brought to our attention: Wappen besonders von deutschen Geschlechtern, 1475-1560 German (München, BSB cod. icon. 309), f. 40v (https://app.digitale-sammlungen.de/bookshelf/bsb00002106) shows arms which we would blazon Gules, three cinquefoils and a gore argent. With this evidence, we remove the step from period practice for the use of gores or gussets with other charges directly on the field, and thank Alisoun Metron Ariston for raising the question, Iago Coquille for a timely response, and Jeanne-Marie Palimpsest for quick work in locating the original decision. https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2021/01/21-01cl.html#7

May 2014 - Tierces and Gussets and Gores, Oh My!

Also on the December 2013 Cover Letter, we asked commenters to discuss the registerability of gores, gussets, and tierces. In November 1991, Laurel banned the use of charged gores and gussets, matching the already-existing ban on charged tierces, but continued to allow the registration of uncharged gores, gussets, and tierces. In October 2012, we declared a step from period practice for the use of any other charge with a tierce.

Much of the discussion centered around our standards for armorial elements. SENA A2B1 addresses this directly: 

Attested Elements: Armorial elements are registerable if they are attested in period European armory. Designs found in a period roll of arms or a treatise on armory meet this standard, even if it is unclear from the treatise if the element was used in actual heraldry. Elements used in arms, in badges, and in crests all meet this standard. Elements must be used and combined in the same ways they were used in period armory.

Under current SENA rules, gores, gussets, and tierces are all registerable charges as they are elements found in period heraldic treatises. However, SENA also requires that elements "must be used and combined in the same ways they were used in period armory," and we have no examples of these charges used in actual period armory.

After much discussion and research, for which we heartily thank all of the commenters involved, and with some thought towards both period heraldry and the leeway allowed in Society armory, we are making the following rulings:

  • The use of a tierce with any other charge on the field remains a step from period practice.
  • The use of gores or gussets with other charges is now a step from period practice. [but see Jan 2021 precedent above]

http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2014/05/14-05cl.html

November 1991 - charging gores, gussets (and tierces):

"Based on the consensus of those commenting on this issue, the College will ban the use of charged gores and charged gussets, matching the ban on charged tierces. Uncharged gores, gussets, and tierces will continue to be registerable. Any charged gores or gussets currently pending at Laurel will be processed as having been "in the pipeline" before the ban went into effect. Therefore, after March 1, 1992, we will no longer register charged gores or gussets." November 1991 LoAR Cover Letter


Conflict:

Identifiability:

<Collected Precedents:

The Ordinary :

(includes gusset, point)

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