Gurges
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Illustrations:
[Illustration from period source]
Pictorial Dictionary of SCA Heraldry (3rd edition):
| Gurges, | Gurges, |
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Illustration/s from Brickbat's Armorial Stash - [[2]]:
Pennsic Traceable Art Project:
Sources:
Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - [[3]] Archive of St. Gabriel reports - [[4]] Laurel Armory Articles - [[5]] Period Armorials
Precedents:
Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[6]] Morsulus Heralds Website - [[7]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents) Restatement Wiki - [[8]] (restatements of Precedents) Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.
#x--Precedents:-Definition:Definition:
From the July LoAR: It has previously been ruled (LoAR of Oct 90) that the gurges may not be couped: "Whirlpools or gurges are used as a single, throughout charge on a field." [1993 LoAR]
#x--Precedents:-Registerability:Registerability:
(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)
From the April 1992 LoAR: "Fieldless badges cannot use charges which issue or are defined by the edge of the field. The gurges is such a charge, and therefore may not be used on a fieldless badge." [1992 LoAR]
#x--Precedents:-Conflict:Conflict:
From the July 2005 Cover Letter: "no difference will be granted between <tincture 1>, a gurges <tincture 2> and <tincture 2>, a gurges <tincture 1>." [2005 LoAR Cover Letter]
From the July 2005 Cover Letter: The question was raised this month about what difference is granted between a schnecke and a gurges. Current precedent, set by Da'ud Laurel, grants a CD between the two, but not substantial (X.2) difference: > There is clearly a CD between a schnecke and a gurges, but the consensus of the commentary and those attending the meeting [was] that RfS X.2 does not apply between them. [Peter Schneck, 5/96] Unlike the gurges, the schnecke seems to have started its heraldic life as a field division. Walter Leonhard's "Grosse Buch der Wappenkunst," 1984, p.165, classes the schnecke// with other complex field divisions such as //Schraegflammenspaltung (Per pale rayonny)//. Some of his schnecke-like field divisions are similar to period armory found in Siebmacher's "Wappenbuch of 1605": v. the arms of Fridesheim (plate 37), von Ellershofen (plate 106) and die Megentzer (plate 119). Leonhard blazons them all as divisions of the field, e.g. //dreifacher Schneckenschnitt ("three-part Snail-cut")//. But the schnecke itself he blazons as a charge: //linke geschuppte Schnecke// ("//left-handed scaled Snail//," which we'd blazon a //schnecke invected reversed). This too is in Siebmacher, plate 198, as the arms of von Rordorf. This last example not only establishes the schnecke as a charge, but also lets us distinguish between the charge and the field: the invected line marks the charge. In SCA usage, the schnecke is always considered to be a charge. The only thing the gurges and the schnecke have in common is a spiraling form. The schnecke never has more than a single revolution to its spiral: that is, if it issues from the chief, it circles the fess point of the shield once and comes to its point from chief. The gurges has at least four revolutions (if we take the concentric annular form as a baseline). The research presented affirms the May 1996 precedent. Given their divergent evolutions and consistently differing emblazons, there is significant difference (a CD) between a gurges and a schnecke. However, there is not substantial (X.2) difference between the two. [2005 LoAR Cover Letter]
#x--Precedents:-Identifiability:Identifiability:
Collected Precedents:
Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - [and SCHNEKE]
The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) - The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) - The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) -