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Illustrations[edit | edit source]

Period source:[edit | edit source]

Miscellaneous Miscellaneous possible tierces, courtesy of Gunnfor silfrahar

Modern[edit | edit source]

Pictorial Dictionary of SCA Heraldry (3rd edition):[edit | edit source]

Pennsic Traceable Art Project:[edit | edit source]

Sources:[edit | edit source]

Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/

Archive of St. Gabriel reports - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/archive.cgi

Laurel Armory Articles - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/armory_articles.html

Period Armorials


Precedents:[edit | edit source]

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html

Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)

Restatement Wiki - http://yehudaheraldry.com/restatement/index.php?title=Main_Page (restatements of Precedents)

Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.

Definition:[edit | edit source]

Registerability:[edit | edit source]

(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)

August 2019 Cover Letter - Charged Tierces, Gores, and Gussets Allowed[edit | edit source]

From Wreath: Tierces, Gores, and Gussets In the March 2019 Cover Letter, we asked commenters do discuss whether there was a reason consistent with the principles of SENA to continue the long-standing ban on charged tierces, gores, and gussets. As noted in that letter, the ban dates from the February 1991 Cover Letter, when Laurel introduced the ban due to "what is becoming overwhelming support for the idea" of banning them. With no discussion on either period practice or potential presumption, there was little guidance for considering either the intent for the initial ban, or the necessary documentation to overturn the ban.

Gunnvor Orle provided several examples of uncharged tierces with complex lines of division, both on their own and with other charges directly on the field. She also provided some examples of armory which may have either been charged tierces or marshalled armory. Due to concerns about the appearance of marshalling, charged plain-line tierces will continue to be banned. However, as a complex line of division erases the appearance of marshalling for a field divided per pale, it stands to reason that a complex line of division on a tierce would also clear the appearance of marshalling for a charged tierce.

As for gores and gussets, they are similar in nature to other peripheral ordinaries that are allowed to be charged under current rules. There are no examples of charged gores and gussets, but until further documentation can be provided that supports it, we will allow charged gores and gussets as a step from period practice, along with charged complex-line tierces.

To sum up:

  • Charged gores, charged gussets, and charged complex-line tierces are now allowed as a step from period practice.
  • Tierces with other charges directly on a field are no longer a step from period practice, due to period evidence supporting the practice.
  • Charged plain-line tierces are still disallowed, as they risk the appearance of marshalling. Charging an existing uncharged plain-line tierce as an augmentation will be allowed on a case-by-case basis.

https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2019/08/19-08cl.html#5

May 2014 Cover Letter = Tierces and Gussets and Gores, Oh My![edit | edit source]

Also on the December 2013 Cover Letter, we asked commenters to discuss the registerability of gores, gussets, and tierces. In November 1991, Laurel banned the use of charged gores and gussets, matching the already-existing ban on charged tierces, but continued to allow the registration of uncharged gores, gussets, and tierces. In October 2012, we declared a step from period practice for the use of any other charge with a tierce.

Much of the discussion centered around our standards for armorial elements. SENA A2B1 addresses this directly:<

  • Attested Elements: Armorial elements are registerable if they are attested in period European armory. Designs found in a period roll of arms or a treatise on armory meet this standard, even if it is unclear from the treatise if the element was used in actual heraldry. Elements used in arms, in badges, and in crests all meet this standard. Elements must be used and combined in the same ways they were used in period armory.

Under current SENA rules, gores, gussets, and tierces are all registerable charges as they are elements found in period heraldic treatises. However, SENA also requires that elements "must be used and combined in the same ways they were used in period armory," and we have no examples of these charges used in actual period armory.

After much discussion and research, for which we heartily thank all of the commenters involved, and with some thought towards both period heraldry and the leeway allowed in Society armory, we are making the following rulings:

  • The use of a tierce with any other charge on the field remains a step from period practice.
  • The use of gores or gussets with other charges is now a step from period practice.

http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2014/05/14-05cl.html

April 2014 Cover Letter - Tierces and Steps from Period Practice[edit | edit source]

A submission this month had us reexamining the existing precedent of a step from period practice for the use of a tierce with any other charge. Orle has found two examples of apparent tierces, both used with other charges: one the arms of Canella in an Italian armorial, and one the attributed arms of Barbary in a German armorial. While compelling, this is not sufficient to overturn the step from period practice; of the two examples we have so far, both are of nebuly tierces, not with plain lines or any other complex lines, and we have no reason to think these are not clouds instead of tierces with complex lines. Without further evidence that the charges in the two examples are indeed tierces we will continue to consider tierces used with other charges a step from period practice. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2014/04/14-04cl.html

October 2012 Cover Letter - Dastardly Tierces[edit | edit source]

This month we considered several designs with tierces, one of which used central ordinaries. The resulting design looked off-balanced, and prompted some further research on tierces.

Tierces do not seem to have been used in period armory at all, although they can be found in some heraldic tracts shown on plain fields. Without further evidence as to how tierces affect the field, we will treat them as we treat chiefs. That is to say, that the rest of the field should be centered in the space remaining to it. Given the lack of evidence of their actual use, and the fact that they make the field unbalanced, there is a step from period practice for the use of any other charges with a tierce. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2012/10/12-10cl.html

February 1991 Cover Letter - no more charged tierces[edit | edit source]

"...on and after June 1, 1991, the College will no longer register charged sides or tierces." February 1991 LoAR Cover Letter

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Collected Precedents:[edit | edit source]

Ordinary [edit | edit source]

(includes flank, side, tierce)


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