Bee

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Illustrations:

Period source:

#Illustrations:-Period:-An Ordinary of Siebmacher's WappenbuchAn Ordinary of Siebmacher's Wappenbuch

• [[1]]

Modern:

PicDic:

PicDic
http://mistholme.com/dictionary/bee/
http://mistholme.com/dictionary/beehive/

Vector Graphics:

• Viking Answer Lady -[[2]]

Pennsic Traceable Art Project:

• [- page 1]
• [- page 2]

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Sources:

Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - [[3]] Archive of St. Gabriel reports - [[4]] Laurel Armory Articles - [[5]]

New Heraldic Primer (Heraldry for Non-Heralds) - [[6]] Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry (PicDic), 3rd Edition - @http://mistholme.com/pictorial-dictionary-of-heraldry (in progress) Period Armorials

Parker's Heraldry - [[7]] Riestap's Armorial Général - //http:''www.euraldic.com/lasu/bl/bl_a_aa.html

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#Precedents:Precedents:

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[8]] Morsulus Heralds Website - [[9]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents) Restatement Wiki - [[10]] (restatements of Precedents) Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.

#Precedents:-Definition:Definition:

September 2006 - default wings, default posture:

Blazoned on the LoI as bees proper, the wings are Or, not argent, thus they are not proper. Changing the tincture of a bee's wings is a CD, as the wings are half the charge when the bee is in its default posture (volant en arriere). [Brokenbridge, Canton of, [[11]] P-East]

July 2006 - bee proper primarily metal:

[Argent, in pale a bee statant bendwise proper] ...A bee proper is not neutral - it is primarily metal... [Violet Elliott, [[12]] R-Atenveldt]

July 2005 - beehive default without bees:

[Gules semy of bees, a beehive Or] There was a question of possible conflict with Piers DeGrey, Gules, a beehive and a bordure Or. As the Pictorial Dictionary (s.v. Beehive) notes, if a beehive is beset by bees, this fact should be blazoned. In fact, Piers's armory does not depict any bees... [Therasia Mellita, [[13]] A-Atlantia]

March 2005 - proper tincture: The proper tincture for bees is defined in precedent as "sable and Or, with argent wings" [2005 LoAR Cover Letter]

December 2002 - default wings for statant: "In the SCA, a bee statant has its wings addorsed by default" [2002 LoAR]

Registerability:

(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)

#Precedents:-Conflict:Conflict:

May 2010 - beehive vs. tower:

#172Antonia di Lorenzo. Per pale gules and vert, a tower between three bees Or. As charges which had independent existence in period, there is at least significant difference between a beehive and a tower. Therefore, this device is clear of the device of Roland of Skep Glen, Vert, a beehive between three bees wings close Or. There is a CD for the field and a CD for the change of type of primary charge. As substantial difference is not needed to clear this conflict, we decline to rule at this time on the question of whether there is substantial difference between a tower and a beehive. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2010/05/10-05lar.html

April 2008 - bee vs fly:

[a bee vs. a fly] ... but nothing for changing the type of insect. [Hannibal Beman, [[14]] R-Ansteorra]

April 2008 - tincture of wings:

[a bee proper] The submitted badge does not conflict with ... bee displayed barry sable and Or, winged Or, nor does it conflict with ... A bee Or. In each case there is a CD ... for changing the tincture of the wings, which are considered to be half the charge. [Hannibal Beman, [[15]] R-Ansteorra]

September 2006 - tincture of wings:

Blazoned on the LoI as bees proper, the wings are Or, not argent, thus they are not proper. Changing the tincture of a bee's wings is a CD, as the wings are half the charge when the bee is in its default posture (volant en arriere). [Brokenbridge, Canton of, [[16]] P-East]

July 2005 - beehive vs beehive beset by bees:

[Gules semy of bees, a beehive Or] There was a question of possible conflict with Piers DeGrey, Gules, a beehive and a bordure Or. As the Pictorial Dictionary (s.v. Beehive) notes, if a beehive is beset by bees, this fact should be blazoned. In fact, Piers's armory does not depict any bees. Therefore there is a CD for adding the semy of bees ... [Therasia Mellita, [[17]] A-Atlantia]

December 2002 - tergian fesswise vs statant:

"There is a CD between a bee tergiant fesswise and a bee statant. Both postures show the bees with fesswise bodies, but a bee tergiant fesswise has wings visible on both sides of the bee's body, while a bee statant only has wings visible on the chiefmost side of the body. This difference is worth a CD, analogous to the difference between a bird rising wings displayed and a bird rising wings addorsed." [2002 LoAR]

September 2001 - bee vs dragonfly:

"When drawn clearly, there is a CD between a bee and a dragonfly." [2001 LoAR]

December 1994 - semy vs three bees:

Rose Boncoeur. Badge. Vert semy of ears of wheat, a beehive Or. Visual conflict with Roland of Skep Glen (SCA), Vert, a beehive between three bees, wings closed, Or. While it can be argued that there are CD's for both number and type of the semi charges, the visual similarity between the two is overwhelming. [!!!!!] http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/1994/12/lar.html

#Precedents:-Identifiability:Identifiability:

July 2006 - bee proper primarily metal:

[Argent, in pale a bee statant bendwise proper] This device is returned for violating RfS VII.2.b - Contrast Requirements. The bee's wings have no contrast with the field and the bee itself has poor contrast with the field. A bee proper is not neutral - it is primarily metal. Please advise the submitter to draw larger wings so that the bee has a chance to make it back to his hive. [Violet Elliott, [[18]] R-Atenveldt]

Collected Precedents:

2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - [Armory Precedents] 1st Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - [-- Bee] 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - Collected Armory Precedents The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - [Armory Precedents] 1st Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - [Armory Precedents] The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - [Armory Precedents] The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - [HTML Document] 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) -

• [1st part] (Nov 1993 - June 1994) and
• [2nd part] (July 1994 - June 1996)

The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - [precedents] 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -

• [1st year] (June 1990 - June 1991) and
• [2nd year] (July 1991 - June 1992)

The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - [Precedents] The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - [HTML Document] The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - [Precedents] The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - [Precedents] The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - [Precedents]

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