Aranwen
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Precedents:[edit | edit source]
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Registerability:[edit | edit source]
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September 2011 - Aranwen now registerable again:[edit | edit source]
#171Aranwen Ridhelic. Name and device. Submitted as Aranw__en R__hy__dhel__yg__//, the name was changed at kingdom to //A__rganguen Rhydhelyg to match current precedent on the given name. To review that precedent: in April 2007, Laurel ruled: Current precedent holds that Aranwen is registerable as a 12th C literary form of a 5th C semi-legendary name: >> Aranwen ferch Dafydd Mawr. Submitted as Arianwen ferch Dafydd Mawr, the spelling Arianwen is a 20th C revival of a name found in a fairly different form in the 5th C. We have no examples of how the name appeared at the time it was actually in use. We did find a form of this name in a 12th C genealogy included in J. Gwenogvryn Evans, The Text of the Book of Llan Dav; this source shows the spelling Aranwen. Given that this is a name used by humans in a written record, we will give the submitter the benefit of the doubt that the form Aranwen might have been adopted for use in the 12th C as a literary name. However, barring documentation that some person actually bore this name later than the 5th C and earlier than 1650, the form Arianwen is no longer registerable. However, upon further consideration, we feel that this precedent is in error. First, the name is found in a genealogical record. While we use these records to show that a particular name was in use at a particular time, we do not use it for spellings for anything but contemporary names, nor do we generally allow names from such records under the literary name citation. Given this, barring documentation that the name that gave rise to the modern Arianwen was found in the Middle Welsh period or later, neither Arianwen nor Aranwen (a 12th C spelling of a 5th C name) is registerable. [April 2007, Aranwen Bengrek, Calontir-A] In October 2010, Laurel overturned a similar ruling for Irish Gaelic. Precedent had said that Oghamic Irish names, which were rarely recorded before the Old Irish period, were not registerable in the Old Irish forms. This meant that many names were simply not registerable, as we did not know their Oghamic forms. Laurel said: "This places an undue burden on submitters. We know the name was used, and we know that later people referred to this name as Daui. Therefore, we overturn the above precedent and will allow the registration of Old Irish forms of Oghamic Irish names, though we encourage the use of Oghamic Irish forms where they can be found or constructed." [October 2010, Daui mac Fáeláin, Æthelmearc-A] Similarly, we have large numbers of names that date to early forms of Welsh and British that are only recorded in later medieval Welsh forms. Therefore, we will allow the registration of medieval Welsh forms of earlier names, though we encourage the use of the older forms where they can be found or constructed. In the case of Aranwen, we are speaking of a figure about whom Harpy says: > The only pre-16th c. Arianwen that we have any evidence for is the woman included among the lists of Brychan Brycheiniog's daughter-saints in medieval and later genealogies. The association with Brychan would give her a 5th century date, but the husband attributed to her in the manuscripts would place her instead in the 8th century (with the relationship to Brychan being a fictitious addition). Therefore, we can treat this name as either a 5th century name or an 8th century name, with the latter somewhat more likely. In an earlier discussion of this name element, Harpy provided the period spellings of this name; they include Aranwen//, //Arganwen//, //Urgrngen//, and //Arianwen// (all are cited in P.C. Bartrum's //Early Welsh Genealogical Tracts//). Any of those would be registerable, along with the constructed standardized Old Welsh //Arganguen in the context of a later spelling of the constructed 5th or 8th century name. We do not have clear evidence of the use of locative bynames in Welsh before the 13th century (though there is a gap in our data between the 10th and 13th century). However, locative bynames occasionally appear in these same genealogical sources (as in the name of Saint Brychan of this same account. Therefore, we will give the submitter the benefit of the doubt for the construction. No one could find evidence for the locative byname before 1194, when it appears in Geraldus Cambrensis' Descriptio Cambriae// as //Ridhelic//. Given the paucity of sources, however, it seems likely that the placename is older; certainly the place itself existed in the 8th century. Later spellings are closer to the submitted form, like //Riedhelig, which is dated to 1573. This name, then, must be constructed as a later spelling of an earlier name. Aranwen Ridhelic// is a spelling appropriate for around 1200, while //Arianwen Riedhelig is a spelling appropriate for the later 16th century. In fact, it is likely that both names are suitable for much of the medieval Welsh period, according to Harpy. As the submitter's original submitted name was Aranwen//, we are registering this as //Aranwen Ridhelic, a form suitable for the c. 1200 form of an earlier name. We note that this precedent does not allow the combination of elements that cannot plausibly be argued to coexist. For example, it would not allow the registration of Aranwen verch George, as English language names did not come into use in Wales until long after the 8th century. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/09/11-09lar.html
April 2007 - Arianwen and Aranwen unregisterable[edit | edit source]
A submission this month caused us to review the registerability of the name Aranwen//. Current precedent holds that //Aranwen is registerable as a 12th C literary form of a 5th C semi-legendary name: > Aranwen ferch Dafydd Mawr// Submitted as //Arianwen ferch Dafydd Mawr//, the spelling //Arianwen// is a 20th C revival of a name found in a fairly different form in the 5th C. We have no examples of how the name appeared at the time it was actually in use. We did find a form of this name in a 12th C genealogy included in J. Gwenogvryn Evans, //The Text of the Book of Llan Dav//; this source shows the spelling Aranwen. Given that this is a name used by humans in a written record, we will give the submitter the benefit of the doubt that the form //Aranwen// might have been adopted for use in the 12th C as a literary name. However, barring documentation that some person actually bore this name later than the 5th C and earlier than 1650, the form //Arianwen is no longer registerable. However, upon further consideration, we feel that this precedent is in error. First, the name is found in a genealogical record. While we use these records to show that a particular name was in use at a particular time, we do not use it for spellings for anything but contemporary names, nor do we generally allow names from such records under the literary name citation. Given this, barring documentation that the name that gave rise to the modern Arianwen// was found in the Middle Welsh period or later, neither //Arianwen// nor //Aranwen (a 12th C spelling of a 5th C name) is registerable. This precedent applies to all future submissions of this name. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2007/04/07-04cl.html
Conflict:[edit | edit source]
Collected Precedents:[edit | edit source]
2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - [Armory Precedents] 1st Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - [Armory Precedents] The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - Collected Armory Precedents The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - [Armory Precedents] The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - [Armory Precedents] The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - [Armory Precedents] The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - [HTML Document] The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) -
The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - [precedents] The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -
The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - [Precedents] The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - [HTML Document] The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - [Precedents] The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - [Precedents] The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - [Precedents]