Editing Carmen

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=Period Forms:= 
* Name - type of name (eg. English feminine give name), date, source.


=Other Potential Sources:= 

* Laurel Name Articles - http:''heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/|http:''heraldry.sca.org/laurel/
* On-line System for Commentary and Response (OSCAR) - https://oscar.sca.org/ (mine previous submissions)
* Morsulus LoAR/Precedent Searches - http://www.morsulus.org/
* Name Pattern Search Form for registered items - http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_np.cgi


* Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Names Archive" - http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ (copies required)
* Archive of St. Gabriel reports - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/archive.cgi ("no copy")
* Academy of St. Gabriel "working" bibliography - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-documents/biblio.html


* Database of Medieval Names (from the Medieval Names Archive) - http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/database/alphalist.php
* Dictionary of Medieval Names from European Sources - http://dmnes.org/names
* IGI [[scaheraldry/Searches|Searches]] (aka Family Search) - https://familysearch.org/search/collection/igi (batches B, C, J, K, M (except M17 and M18), or P are acceptable)


* Omniglot On-line Encyclopedia of Writing Systems and Languages - http://www.omniglot.com/index.htm

=Precedents:= 
* Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html]]
* Morsulus Heralds Website - [[http://www.morsulus.org/]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents)
* ''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.''

==Registerability:== 
From the <month> <year> LoAR:

==Conflict:==
From the <month> <year> LoAR:

==Collected Precedents:== 
* '''Compiled Names Precedents''' (current through May 2004, as of 10/2016) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/index.html


* 2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - to be included in Compiled Names Precedents above
* 1st Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - ditto
* The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - http:''heraldry.sca.org/goodbye.cgi?url=http:''www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/nameprec.html
* The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/shauna/name.html 
* The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - included in Compiled Names Precedents above
* The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elsbeth/name.html (included in above)
* The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/jaelleret.html (also in CNP above)
* The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/daud2ret.html (also in CNP above)
* The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/bruce/Bruceret.html (also in CNP above)
* The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1ret.html (also in CNP above)
* The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/AlisounRet.html
* The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/baldwinret.html
* The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - in Compiled Names Precedents above
* The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - in Compiled Names Precedents above
* The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - in Compiled Names Precedents above

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 * '''Compiled Names Precedents''' (current through May 2004, as of 10/2016) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/index.html
-{| class="wikitable"
-| colspan="3" |'''Carmen'''
-|-
-|François la Flamme
-|2002.10
-|''Carmen'' was documented from De Felice ''Dizionario dei nomi Italiani'' (p. 100 s.n. Carméla). ''Carmen'', like ''Mercedes'', originated as a devotional name referring to the Virgin Mary. ''Mercedes'' was ruled unregisterable in the precedents:
-* The submitter documented the given name from De Felice, ''I Nomi Degli Italiani''; however, De Felice notes that ''Mercedes'' entered Italy from Spain. Because ''Mercedes'' is not found in Spain until well after 1600, the name could not have been found in period Italy. [''Mercedes Amici'', 01/00, R-Æthelmearc] Unfortunately, no documentation has been presented, and none could be found to show ''Mercedes'' as a period given name. The best that was found was ''María de las Mercedes'', from 1690. This is well past our grey area, and does not even document ''Mercedes'' as a stand alone name. Barring documentation that ''Mercedes'' was used as a given name in period, this must be returned. [''Mercedes de Cerdaña'', 09/98, R-Ansteorra]Lacking evidence that ''Carmen'' was used in period, this name is not registerable. [Carmen Salazar, 10/2002, R-Ansteorra]
-|}
 * 2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - to be included in Compiled Names Precedents above