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* '''Compiled Names Precedents''' (current through May 2004, as of 10/2016) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/index.html
* '''Compiled Names Precedents''' (current through May 2004, as of 10/2016) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/index.html


{| class="wikitable"
| colspan="3" |'''Carmen'''
|-
|François la Flamme
|2002.10
|''Carmen'' was documented from De Felice ''Dizionario dei nomi Italiani'' (p. 100 s.n. Carméla). ''Carmen'', like ''Mercedes'', originated as a devotional name referring to the Virgin Mary. ''Mercedes'' was ruled unregisterable in the precedents:
* The submitter documented the given name from De Felice, ''I Nomi Degli Italiani''; however, De Felice notes that ''Mercedes'' entered Italy from Spain. Because ''Mercedes'' is not found in Spain until well after 1600, the name could not have been found in period Italy. [''Mercedes Amici'', 01/00, R-Æthelmearc] Unfortunately, no documentation has been presented, and none could be found to show ''Mercedes'' as a period given name. The best that was found was ''María de las Mercedes'', from 1690. This is well past our grey area, and does not even document ''Mercedes'' as a stand alone name. Barring documentation that ''Mercedes'' was used as a given name in period, this must be returned. [''Mercedes de Cerdaña'', 09/98, R-Ansteorra]Lacking evidence that ''Carmen'' was used in period, this name is not registerable. [Carmen Salazar, 10/2002, R-Ansteorra]
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* 2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - to be included in Compiled Names Precedents above
* 2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - to be included in Compiled Names Precedents above

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Carmen
François la Flamme 2002.10 Carmen was documented from De Felice Dizionario dei nomi Italiani (p. 100 s.n. Carméla). Carmen, like Mercedes, originated as a devotional name referring to the Virgin Mary. Mercedes was ruled unregisterable in the precedents:
  • The submitter documented the given name from De Felice, I Nomi Degli Italiani; however, De Felice notes that Mercedes entered Italy from Spain. Because Mercedes is not found in Spain until well after 1600, the name could not have been found in period Italy. [Mercedes Amici, 01/00, R-Æthelmearc] Unfortunately, no documentation has been presented, and none could be found to show Mercedes as a period given name. The best that was found was María de las Mercedes, from 1690. This is well past our grey area, and does not even document Mercedes as a stand alone name. Barring documentation that Mercedes was used as a given name in period, this must be returned. [Mercedes de Cerdaña, 09/98, R-Ansteorra]Lacking evidence that Carmen was used in period, this name is not registerable. [Carmen Salazar, 10/2002, R-Ansteorra]
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