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Illustrations:

Period source/s:

Cotised potent-counterpotent

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Arms of the Counts of Champagne, bend cotised potent-counterpotent

An Ordinary of Siebmacher's Wappenbuch:

http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/heraldry/siebmacher/f-siebmacher.html

Modern:

Pictorial Dictionary of SCA Heraldry (3rd edition):

Pennsic Traceable Art Project


#x--Sources:Sources:

Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - [[2]] Archive of St. Gabriel reports - [[3]] Laurel Armory Articles - [[4]] Period Armorials

Parker's Heraldry - http://karlwilcox.com/parker/c/Cottices - "The cottice may be considered as the diminution of a bend containing the one fourth part of the breadth of the ordinary."


#x--Precedents:Precedents:

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[5]] Morsulus Heralds Website - [[6]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents) Restatement Wiki - [[7]] (restatements of Precedents) Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.


Definition:

March 2001 - cotises separate secondary charge group:

"If there is another secondary charge present, the cotises get to count as another separate secondary charge group... [2001 LoAR]

July 2000 LoAR - cotises not co-primary:

Cotises are not co-primaries with the ordinary; they are a secondary charge group. ... [2000 LoAR]

July 1981 LoAR - cotises always with an ordinary:

Cotises can not be found alone, there must always be an ordinary for them to surround. "You cannot have an endorse or a cotise standing alone." [1981 LoAR]

July 2000 LoAR - cotises separate charge group:

Cotises are not co-primaries with the ordinary; they are a secondary charge group. "The device has an entire sable cotise on the gules field. As cotises are treated as a secondary charge group, this violates RfS VIII.2, Armorial Contrast." As they are a secondary charge group, they do get counted as a CD. [2000 LoAR]

Registerability (Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP):

February 2005 - counterchanging bordure over cotises:

Gareth Grey de Wilton, 02/05 R-East: "In this case, however, the bordure is also counterchanged over the cotises, which have been consistently defined by precedent as secondaries, rather than as ordinaries, thus taking the device a second step away from period practice." http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2005/02/05-02lar.html

July 2000 - cotises and rule of tincture:

"The device has an entire sable cotise on the gules field. As cotises are treated as a secondary charge group, this violates RfS VIII.2, Armorial Contrast.".... [2000 LoAR]


Conflict:

October 2009 - DC for type and arrangement:

Calle Dore. Name and device. Azure, a bend doubly cotised argent. ... This device is clear of the device of Walter of Lowestoft, "Azure, a bend and in sinister canton four poppy-bolls, all argent". There is a CD for the change of type of secondary charges and a CD for the change of arrangement of half of the secondary charges. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/10/09-10lar.html

September 2009 - DC for type only:

Caitriona inghean Chalbhaigh. Device. Vert, on a bend between a triquetra and three thistles argent a hawk volant sable. "This device is returned for technical conflict with the device of Karl Braden von Sobernheim, "Vert, on a bend doubly cotised argent a violin sable". There is no CD for the changes of type only of the tertiary charges, as the device is too complex to be suitable for purposes of X.4.j.ii. There is a CD for the change of type of the secondary charges. There is not a CD for the change of arrangement of the secondary charges, from one above and three below the primary charge to two above and two below the primary charge, because only one of the four secondary charges is moving. The position of the cotises is otherwise forced." http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/09/09-09lar.html

January 2007 - cotised vs doubly cotised:

Sabine d'Antan. Device. Vert, a bend sinister cotised between a stag springing and a pheon argent. ... If resubmitted with a properly drawn pheon, this will not conflict with the device for Euriol of Lothian, "Vert, a bend sinister doubly cotised argent". In armory with cotises and other secondary charges, the cotises form one secondary charge group and the other charges a separate secondary charge group. There will be a CD between _cotised_ and _doubly cotised_ and a second CD for adding the stag and pheon. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2007/01/07-01lar.html

March 2001 - cotises vs other secondaries:

"If there is another secondary charge present, the cotises get to count as another separate secondary charge group. "Argent, on a fess cotised embattled on the outer edges between three leopard's faces sable three crescents argent. This is clear of the flag of Meridies, Argent, on a fess sable, a crown of three points between two mullets argent, with one CD for the removal of the cotises and a second for the removal of the leopard's faces as they are two different charge groups." So it is possible to get 2 CDs from two different sets of secondaries. [2001 LoAR]

'July 2000 - cotises vs other secondaries':

Cotises are not co-primaries with the ordinary; they are a secondary charge group. "The device has an entire sable cotise on the gules field. As cotises are treated as a secondary charge group, this violates RfS VIII.2, Armorial Contrast." As they are a secondary charge group, they do get counted as a CD. [2000 LoAR]


Collected Precedents:

2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - [Armory Precedents] 1st Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - [[8]] 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - [[9]] The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - [Armory Precedents] 1st Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - [Armory Precedents] The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - [Armory Precedents] The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - [HTML Document] The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) -

The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - [precedents] The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) -

The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - [Precedents] The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - [HTML Document] The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - [Precedents] The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - [Precedents] The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - [Precedents]



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