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Illustrations:

Period:

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Zurich Roll, c. 1340, early period version of wyvern/dragon. FB image by Bruce Draconarius. BSB 291. Insignia Anglica, c.1550. f17v. only known example of dissimilar creatures combatant, dragon and lion

Modern:

Pictorial Dictionary, 3rd edition:

Vector Graphics:

  • Viking Answer Lady - [[1]]
===Pennsic Traceable Art Project:===
* [head (cabossed)]
* [head (couped)]
* [head (erased)]
* [(in annulo)]
* [(couchant)]
* [(displayed)]
* [(passant)]
* [(segreant) - page 1]
* [(segreant) - page 2]
* [(segreant) - page 3]
* [(sejant)]
* [(sejant, wings elevated)]
* [Oriental (in annulo) - page 1]
* [Oriental (in annulo) - page 2]
* [Oriental (passant)]
* [Oriental (passant bendwise)]
=Sources:=
Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - [[2]]
Archive of St. Gabriel reports - [gabriel/public-bin/archive.cgi]
Laurel Armory Articles - [[3]]
Period Armorials


Precedents:

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[4]] Morsulus Heralds Website - [[5]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents) Restatement Wiki - [[6]] (restatements of Precedents) Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.

#x--Precedents:-Definition:Definition:

#x--Precedents:-Registerability:Registerability:

(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)

December 2010 - volant:

Somerled of Ballindore. Device. Checky azure and argent, a dragon volant en arrière vert. This device is returned because, by precedent, dragons are not allowed to be in this posture: > [Three dragons volant] There is no defined volant posture for quadrupeds. [Little Brùsi of Dragon Vale, 12/91] > Unfortunately, there is no standard default depiction for monsters volant in the Society (the issue tends not to arise in mundane heraldry!) and the body position tends to vary somewhat. [Sofiya Germanovna Tumanova, 07/88] > The difficulty here is that the position of a winged beast volant is ill defined. We can recall instances of bodies courant and springing, and would doubtless find others if we searched the files. Since body position has been left to the caprice of the artist, we see no alternative but to disallow this, except in the most extreme cases, as a source of difference. It is our recommendation that, in the future, no winged beast be blazoned as "volant." "Passant, wings elevated and addorsed" (or whatever) with a stricture to the designers to place their beasts in suitably heraldic positions to begin with would avoid such ambiguities in future coats. [Jon of Harriston, 08/86] This device has the dragon in the posture volant en arrière, a variant of volant for insects. It is not a posture that monsters may use. [[7]]


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October 2008 LoAR - dragon vs. griffin:

Wenthelen of Drakelow. Gules, a dragon segreant between in chief a pair of drinking horns Or, a chief Or goutty de sang. This is clear of William Castille, Gules, a griffin segreant and a chief Or. Griffins and dragons were ruled to be substantially different on the July 2001 LoAR. The design is not suitable for purposes of RfS X.2 since there are three types of charge on the field (dragon, horn, chief). Using RfS X.4, it is clear with three CDs: one for the change of type of primary charge from griffin to dragon, one for the addition of the secondary horns, and one for the addition of the tertiary gouttes. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2008/10/08-10lar.html


November 1997 LoAR - dragon vs. cockatrice:

Cockatrice are considered different from dragons and therefore do not conflict with one another. This is confirmed in the Precedents of the SCA CoA, citing from the November 1997 LoAR of the armory of Wolfger von Lausfenburg: "[a dragon vs a cockatrice] We do not normally give a difference for changing the head only of a beast or monster. However, since they were considered different monsters in period, and since the head is not obscured in any way, we are willing to grant it the necessary CD to make it clear of these possible conflicts." November 1997 LoAR & Laurel Precedent


#x--Precedents:-Identifiability:Identifiability:

Collected Precedents:

Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - [-- Dragon and Hydra] The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - na The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) - The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) - The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) -

In the Ordinary (as of 4/2012):

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