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See also Enflamed

Examples:

Period

Modern

Pictorial Dictionary of SCA Heraldry (3rd edition):


Pennsic Traceable Art Project: [[1]]


Sources:

Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/
Archive of St. Gabriel reports - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/archive.cgi
Laurel Armory Articles - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/armory_articles.html
Period Armorials

Precedents:

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)

Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.


Definition/Defining Instance:

November 2020 CL - On Flames

This month, Iago Coquille takes us on an excursion through the depictions of flames in period heraldry. His article is currently available at the Laurel website at https://heraldry.sca.org/armory/flames/, and discusses:

  • Flame shape
  • Disconnected flames
  • Tinctures, including proper
  • Depiction of strewn flames

Iago's research affects two items this month. Specifically, we are now overturning precedent: the so-called "crab-claw" depiction, previously viewed as modern as declared on the September 2019 Cover Letter, is now shown to be period and, therefore, usable in Society armory. It is worth noting that not all the sources are Italian -- English, French, and German sources are also represented among others.

Additionally, the ways in which multi-color flames have been depicted in period are much more varied than is typical of our practice. In particular, we now have sufficient evidence to support a variety of ways in which flames may incorporate both red and yellow and still be considered proper, extending beyond our long-held standard of alternating tongues of Or and gules, and future submissions will benefit from this evidence.

https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2020/11/20-11cl.html

Registerability:

August 2011 - ordinaries of flame

Emeric of Zara. Device. Sable, two mounted knights passant in fess and a base of flame, and on a chief Or three decrescents sable. This device is returned for using an ordinary of flame, which is a violation of precedent: "Without evidence that ordinaries of flame were used in period armory, or that such are compatible with period armory, we will not register ordinaries of flames. [Désirée Gabriel de Laval, R-Middle, February 1994]" While blazoned on the Letter of Intent as a flame issuant from base, overwhelming consensus in commentary was that the emblazon depicted a base of flame. Since we register the emblazon, not the blazon, we are forced to return this device. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/08/11-08lar.html

Conflict:

Identifiability:

May 2015 - The flames of a phoenix must have contrast with the field.

Kingeslake, College of. Device. Quarterly argent and Or, a phoenix gules rising from flames proper within a laurel wreath gules. This device must be returned for a contrast issue. Flames proper, as correctly depicted here, show alternating tongues of Or and gules. Therefore a significant proportion of the flames lie on and have no contrast with an Or quarter of the field. This problem could be solved by either changing the tincture of the flames or by changing the tincture of the field. [but see Nov 2020 precedent above about alternating tongues]. May 2015 LoAR

Collected Precedents:


Ordinary

(includes flame, flammant)

Ordinary