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==== Demi-monk in crown, fish surfing, kayaking: ====
==== Demi-monk in crown, fish surfing: ====
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| [[File:Siebmacher_plate067_monkcrown.jpg]]
| [[File:Siebmacher_plate067_monkcrown.jpg]]
| http://www.sofyalarus.info/heraldicart/BSBCsg9210_f03_fish-surfing-lady.PNG
| http://www.sofyalarus.info/heraldicart/BSBCsg9210_f03_fish-surfing-lady.PNG
| [[File:Siebmacher-f58-dieBezisski-redman&boatonblue.png]]
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|Siebmacher 1605, plate 67, crown and monk
|Siebmacher 1605, plate 67, crown and monk
|BSB Csg 9210, Grunenberg Wappenbuch, 1602-04, f03, fish surfing woman
|BSB Csg 9210, Grunenberg Wappenbuch, 1602-04, f03, fish surfing woman
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==== Kayaking: ====
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| [[File:Siebmacher-f58-dieBezisski-redman&boatonblue.png]]
| [[File:DieBezisski-boatmanlineart.png]]
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| Siebmacher's 1605, folio 58, arms of die Bezisski, "Azure, an armored little man proper in a boat maintaining in each hand an arrow inverted gules"
| Siebmacher's 1605, folio 58, arms of die Bezisski, "Azure, an armored little man proper in a boat maintaining in each hand an arrow inverted gules"
| Same arms as Siebmacher, but cleared lines
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Illustrations:

Period:

On horseback:

Siebmacher plate223 knight.jpg BSB391 f 1530 StMartin.jpg
Siebmacher Wappenbok, 1605, plate 223, knight on horseback with banner Sammelband Mehrerer Wappenbücher BSB Cod.icon. 391, 1530, Saint Martin

Cavorting, demi-boy making a face:

Siebmacher plate215 HopferCant.jpg File:Arlberg 1548 knave.jpg
Canting Arms, Siebmacher Plate 215 Reyssmaull, with the blazon: "In Rot wachsender silbern gekleideter Knabe mit silberner Kappe mit linker schwarzer Feder darauf, der mit beiden H{a:}nden die offenen Lippen waagrecht fletscht." Which may translate into "Gules, a boy argent rising (issuant? demi?) capped argent with a black feather in the cap to sinister, with both hands stretching his parted lips fesswise."

Demi-monk in crown, fish surfing:

File:Siebmacher plate067 monkcrown.jpg BSBCsg9210_f03_fish-surfing-lady.PNG
Siebmacher 1605, plate 67, crown and monk BSB Csg 9210, Grunenberg Wappenbuch, 1602-04, f03, fish surfing woman

Kayaking:

Siebmacher-f58-dieBezisski-redman&boatonblue.png DieBezisski-boatmanlineart.png
Siebmacher's 1605, folio 58, arms of die Bezisski, "Azure, an armored little man proper in a boat maintaining in each hand an arrow inverted gules" Same arms as Siebmacher, but cleared lines

Man-tyger, insect-armed devil:

TudorBanner man-tyger.jpg BSBCsg9210_f68r_devil.jpg
Tudor Banner Manuscript, banner of Mayster Ratleff, man-tyger (baboon?) Grunenberg Wappenguch, BSB Csg 9210, 1602-04, f68r, devil
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11350478_10205044562088114_3922479983382101424_n.jpg?oh=301731dddadab192f0aef3c0a121ada4&oe=5607A5A0
BSB Cgm 145, Das Wappenbuch Conrads von Grünenberg, 1480, folio 212, chicken-head

Minotaurs:

04800392.jpg
MS Holkham Misc. 48, p. 17, Bodleian Library, medieval minotaur (bull body with human torso)
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1526856_951513331542749_7037564203599832917_n.jpg?oh=d8e8df66338954beb075d52a906d51f0&oe=550DAB9D
Classical Greek minotaur (human body with bull's head), from ancient pottery, courtesy of Gunnvor silfrahar

Modern:

Pictorial Dictionary, 3rd edition:

Vector Graphics:

Brickbat's Armorial Stash

Pennsic Traceable Art Project


Separate articles:

  1. Angel (charge)
  2. Archer
  3. Arm
  4. Body Part
  5. Bone
  6. Hand
  7. Head

Sources:

Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/

Archive of St. Gabriel reports - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/archive.cgi

Laurel Armory Articles - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/armory_articles.html

Period Armorials


SENA Appendix L:

A Partial List of Postures and Orientations

This is a list of postures and orientations that can be used to determine whether two charges or groups of charges conflict or whether there is a distinct change for posture/orientation.

Animate Charges

E: Humanoids: This category is for humans and humanoid monsters. The postures listed within each group generally conflict.

  • statant
  • statant affronty
  • mounted on a horse or other creature

Precedents:

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html

Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)

Restatement Wiki - http://yehudaheraldry.com/restatement/index.php?title=Main_Page (restatements of Precedents)

Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.

Definition:

September 2009 - minotaur:

Gawayn Langknyfe. Device. Per bend sinister sable and gules, a bull-headed human with bull's hoofs vested of a loincloth per bend Or and argent between in bend a battle axe Or and a battle axe argent. "Blazoned on the LoI as a minotaur, the monster drawn here fits neither the Classical Greek nor the medieval definition of the term. The Classical Greek minotaur of antiquity was drawn on pottery as a man with a bull's head; by medieval times, the minotaur was depicted as a centaur-like monster with a bull's body, a man's torso, and occasionally bull's horns from the man's head..."

http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/09/09-09lar.html

Registerability:

(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)

August 2011 - demons:

From Wreath: On Demons

A submission this month included a demon. We have only registered a demon nine times, most recently in July 2000. Further research has not shown any instances of a demon as a period heraldic charge. Depictions of demons in period medieval art vary wildly: generally shaggy, but occasionally more dragon-like, feet usually cloven but occasionally clawed like a dragon, sometimes with wings, sometimes without, sometimes with horns, sometimes without, sometimes with a very bestial face, sometimes with a more human face. Demons do not appear to have a standard depiction.

Barring evidence for the use of demons as a period charge, we will cease to register demons after the February 2012 Laurel meeting. This explicitly overturns the precedent set in September 1992: "The demon is a period heraldic charge, as found in the arms of the city of Brussels (Gules, the archangel Michael Or vanquishing a demon underfoot sable). [Asher Truefriend, Sep 1992, A-West]". It has since been determined that the arms of the city of Brussels are post-period.

This does not affect the registerability of demon heads, which have a far more standard depiction.

http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/08/11-08cl.html

September 1997 - no rampant:

[W]e don't register rampant humans or humanoids.

September 1997 LoAR

January 1995 - rampant?:

'Rampant' does not appear to be a human posture.

January 1995 LoAR

Conflict:

September 1997 - tincture of wings:

Just as we will give a CD for changing the tincture of the wings on a winged monster, so do we give one

for changing the tincture of the flames of a phoenix."

September 1997 LoAR

Identifiability:

September 2009 - bull-headed human horns:

Gawayn Langknyfe. Device. Per bend sinister sable and gules, a bull-headed human with bull's hoofs vested of a loincloth per bend Or and argent between in bend a battle axe Or and a battle axe argent. "This device is returned because the primary charge is not recognizable. The monster's horns were drawn here to blend with the body, in such a way that they could not be distinguished. If any charge's identifying features are not readily seen, that charge is not identifiable, and thus not registerable."

http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/09/09-09lar.html

Collected Precedents:

Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - HUMAN FIGURE

The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - HUMANMONSTER -- HumanoidMONSTER -- Merfolk

The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - Collected Armory Precedents

The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - Collected Armory Precedents

The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - Collected Armory Precedents

The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - Single HTML Document

The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) - the 1st part (Nov 1993 - June 1994) and the 2nd part(July 1994 - June 1996)

The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - Collected precedents

The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) - the 1st year (June 1990 - June 1991) and the 2nd year(July 1991 - June 1992)

The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - Collected Precedents

The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - Single HTML Document

The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - Collected Precedents

The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - Collected Precedents

The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - Collected Precedents


In the Ordinary: