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[[http://www.s-gabriel.org/3199]]
[[http://www.s-gabriel.org/3199]]


"On the Documentation and Construction of Period Mongolian Names" <span style="line-height: 1.5;">by Baras-aghur Naran - http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/baras-aghur/mongolian.html</span>
"On the Documentation and Construction of Period Mongolian Names" by Baras-aghur Naran - http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/baras-aghur/mongolian.html


"Researching Mongol Names in the SCA" (interesting overview and evaluation of SCA research on the topic) http://silverhorde.viahistoria.com/main.html?research/ResearchingMongolNames.html
Mongol Dictionaries at Monumenta Altaica - https://altaica.ru/e_v-mongol.php
Lingua Mongolia - http://www.linguamongolia.com/dict1.html


The two-volume edition and commentary of <u>The Secret History</u> by Igor de Rachewiltz.
The two-volume edition and commentary of <u>The Secret History</u> by Igor de Rachewiltz.
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"Middle Mongol Grammar for SCA Names" - https://heraldry.sca.org/names/mongolgrammar.html
"Middle Mongol Grammar for SCA Names" - https://heraldry.sca.org/names/mongolgrammar.html


==<span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #222222; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">'''Middle Mongol Names and Titles.''' </span>==  
=='''Middle Mongol Names and Titles.''' ==  
Volker Rybatzki, Die Personennamen und Titel der mittelmongolischen Dokumente: Eine lexikalische Untersuchung, University of Helsinki, Helsinki 2006 - [[@http://ethesis.helsinki.fi/julkaisut/hum/aasia/vk/rybatzki/]]
Volker Rybatzki, Die Personennamen und Titel der mittelmongolischen Dokumente: Eine lexikalische Untersuchung, University of Helsinki, Helsinki 2006 - http://ethesis.helsinki.fi/julkaisut/hum/aasia/vk/rybatzki/
<span style="background-color: #ffffff; color: #222222; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">The full download (almost 900 pages) is available. The explanatory text is in some sort of German, but the dictionary of names, which takes up the bulk of the text, is multilingual. It's very dense, but there's a lot of information here about Mongol names in Chinese and Arabic sources that has previously been very difficult for SCA members to find. --Ursula Georges.</span>
The full download (almost 900 pages) is available (https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/14914743.pdf as of Feb 2020). The explanatory text is in some sort of German, but the dictionary of names, which takes up the bulk of the text, is multilingual. It's very dense, but there's a lot of information here about Mongol names in Chinese and Arabic sources that has previously been very difficult for SCA members to find. --Ursula Georges.


'''Middle Mongol Grammar for SCA Names''' - http://yarntheory.net/ursulageorges/names/mongolgrammar.html
'''Middle Mongol Grammar for SCA Names''' - http://yarntheory.net/ursulageorges/names/mongolgrammar.html


= SENA Appendix A: Patterns That Do Not Need Further Documentation... =
= SENA Appendix A: Patterns That Do Not Need Further Documentation... =
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=Precedents:=  
=Precedents:=  
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html]]</span>
Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html <br>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Morsulus Heralds Website - [[http://www.morsulus.org/]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents)</span>
Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)<br>
<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">Restatement Wiki - [[http://yehudaheraldry.com/restatement/index.php?title=Main_Page]] (restatements of Precedents)</span>
 
''<span style="background-color: #ffffff;">'''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.'''</span>''
 
'' '''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.''' ''


=='''Collected Name Precedents: Mongol -'''==  
=='''Collected Name Precedents: Mongol -'''==  
http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/Mongol.html
http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/Mongol.html


===March 2013 - names from heavently bodies===
===March 2013 - names from heavenly bodies===
'''Suuder Saran.''' Name. "...Saran "moon" on the other hand does follow a pattern of the use of the names of heavenly bodies in period Mongol names and is registerable." https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2013/03/13-03lar.html#139
'''Suuder Saran.''' Name. "...Saran "moon" on the other hand does follow a pattern of the use of the names of heavenly bodies in period Mongol names and is registerable." https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2013/03/13-03lar.html#139


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[[Category:Names]] [[Category:Cultures]] [[Category:Need Work]]
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Basic Information:[edit | edit source]

Naming Patterns[edit | edit source]


Compound names[edit | edit source]

  • Written in period both combined and as separate words.
  • Mongolian compound personal names and placenames tend to be written as one word (unless a dash is needed to indicate the appropriate stress/emphasis) according to the Lonely Planet Mongolian Phrasebook, pp 14-15, published in 2008.
  • This is supported for period use by names such as

Odchigin (hearth child, i.e. fire monkey), Munukhoi (bad dog) [both from Maarta's article] and also...

  • But there are many names written separately also:

ibid

  • This satisfies the SCA requirement that there be two names for registration purposes.



Sources:[edit | edit source]

Academy of Saint Gabriel Report 3199 gives some examples of Mongol patronymic constructions: [[1]]

"On the Documentation and Construction of Period Mongolian Names" by Baras-aghur Naran - http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/baras-aghur/mongolian.html

"Researching Mongol Names in the SCA" (interesting overview and evaluation of SCA research on the topic) http://silverhorde.viahistoria.com/main.html?research/ResearchingMongolNames.html

Mongol Dictionaries at Monumenta Altaica - https://altaica.ru/e_v-mongol.php

Lingua Mongolia - http://www.linguamongolia.com/dict1.html

The two-volume edition and commentary of The Secret History by Igor de Rachewiltz.

Articles at Laurel:[edit | edit source]

"Mongolian Naming Practices" http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/mongolian_names_marta.html

"Middle Mongol Grammar for SCA Names" - https://heraldry.sca.org/names/mongolgrammar.html

Middle Mongol Names and Titles.[edit | edit source]

Volker Rybatzki, Die Personennamen und Titel der mittelmongolischen Dokumente: Eine lexikalische Untersuchung, University of Helsinki, Helsinki 2006 - http://ethesis.helsinki.fi/julkaisut/hum/aasia/vk/rybatzki/ The full download (almost 900 pages) is available (https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/14914743.pdf as of Feb 2020). The explanatory text is in some sort of German, but the dictionary of names, which takes up the bulk of the text, is multilingual. It's very dense, but there's a lot of information here about Mongol names in Chinese and Arabic sources that has previously been very difficult for SCA members to find. --Ursula Georges.

Middle Mongol Grammar for SCA Names - http://yarntheory.net/ursulageorges/names/mongolgrammar.html

SENA Appendix A: Patterns That Do Not Need Further Documentation...[edit | edit source]

http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/sena.html#AppendixA

Mongol:

Mongol names are quite different in structure from European names. All patterns documented in Baras-aghur Naran, "On the Documentation and Construction of Period Mongolian Names" (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/baras-aghur/mongolian.html) are registerable.


SENA Appendix C: Regional Naming Groups and Their Mixes[edit | edit source]

http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/sena.html#AppendixC

Regional Groups: By Time Period: Languages Included In This Group: Can Be Combined With Groups:
Mongol 550-1100 n/a n/a
1100-1600 Mongol, etc. Arabic

Hungarian/Romanian Persian Russian/East Slavic Turkish


Precedents:[edit | edit source]

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html
Morsulus Heralds Website - http://www.morsulus.org/ (to search the LoARs and Precedents)


Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.

Collected Name Precedents: Mongol -[edit | edit source]

http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/Mongol.html

March 2013 - names from heavenly bodies[edit | edit source]

Suuder Saran. Name. "...Saran "moon" on the other hand does follow a pattern of the use of the names of heavenly bodies in period Mongol names and is registerable." https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2013/03/13-03lar.html#139



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