Schnecke
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Illustrations:
Period:
| Siebmacher | Bertschi | also in Virgle Waber's Neustifter Wappenbuch, mid 16th century, plate 68: arms of Behaim |
| Siebmacher 1605, plate 119, tricolor/bicolor schnecke versus "per pall arrondi" | Bertschi Armorial, 1515-1650, tricolor/bicolor schnecke vs. per pall arrondi? | |
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| Holy Roman Empire, Bechaim, schneck vs per pall arrondi | Virgil Raber Neustifter, Behaim, schnecke vs per pall arrondi |
Modern:
Pictorial Dictionary, 3rd edition:
- [[1]] "The point at which the schnecke enters the shield should be blazoned; whether it spirals deasil or widdershins is left to the artist."
Vector Graphics:
- Viking Answer Lady - http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/Stars/Heraldry_SVG_Images/index.htm
Brickbat's Armorial Stash
- [[2]]:
Pennsic Traceable Art Project
Sources:
Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Heraldry Archive" - http://www.s-gabriel.org/heraldry/ Archive of St. Gabriel reports - [[3]] Laurel Armory Articles - http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/armory_articles.html
New Heraldic Primer (Heraldry for Non-Heralds) - http://heraldry.sca.org/armory/newprimer/ Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry (PicDic), 3rd Edition - @http://mistholme.com/pictorial-dictionary-of-heraldry (in progress) Period Armorials
Parker's Heraldry - http://karlwilcox.com/parker/ Riestap's Armorial Général - //http:''www.euraldic.com/lasu/bl/bl_a_aa.html
Alternate Form:
This item was on the 05-2012 LoAR
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OSCAR finds the name registered exactly as it appears in November of 2001, via the Outlands Or, a schnecke issuant from base maintaining on the outer swirl three schneckes sable. This is the defining instance of this type of schnecke. It is found in the 1377-8 L'Armorial Bellenville, MS Français 5230 at the BNF. [[4]]
Precedents:
Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[5]] Morsulus Heralds Website - [[6]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents) Restatement Wiki - [[7]] (restatements of Precedents) Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.
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(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)
November 2000 - with secondaries or tertiaries:
#60Adriona Nichole la rousse de Beauvoir. Purpure, a schnecke issuant from sinister chief argent charged with a rose gules, slipped and leaved vert, in dexter chief and in base two fleurs-de-lys argent. "...as we know of no period examples of schneckes with secondary or tertiary charges, we find the use of both in this device to be two steps beyond period practice. We may allow secondary or tertiary charges with a schnecke, but we doubt that the use of either is period practice." http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2000/11/00-11lar.html
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June 2013 - schnecke, gyronny arrondi and per pall arrondi:
#127Amaryllis le Pouke. Device. Gyronny of three arrondi purpure, argent and sable. Blazoned on the Letter of Intent as Schneckendreipass//, that is a German blazon that may or may not be modern, and translates roughly as "three-parted snail." Woodward suggests an English blazon of //tierced in gyron gyronnant//. This field division was first registered in SCA heraldry in September 1971, blazoned as //gyronny of three arrondi, with the following comment: > NOTE: Alternative blazons for this pinwheel-like field division are "Tierced in gyrons arrondi" and "Tierced in gyron gyronnant." We believe the first one given is the clearest and most descriptive, for someone who has acquired the basic heraldic vocabulary. [Crispus Alexander, A-West, September 1971] In any case, as period examples of this field division are drawn both with the lines of division at the corners and with the lines of division shifted away from the corners, we will not consider this field division significantly different from per pall arrondi// or //per pall inverted arrondi. This device is returned for conflict with the device of Albrechtus Vagus, Per pall arrondi sable, azure and argent. As both devices have argent in the sinister section of the field, there is not a substantial change of tincture under SENA A5F2. There is therefore only one DC for change in tincture of half the field. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2013/06/13-06lar.html#127
August 2011 - change of orientation of schnecke:
#48Stella della Luna. Name and device. Purpure mullety, a schnecke issuant from sinister Or. This device does not conflict with the device of Alexander ben Avram, Purpure, a schnecke issuant from sinister chief, in dexter chief a mullet of six points Or. There is a CD for the change in number of secondary charges. There is an additional CD for the change of the orientation of the schnecke, from issuing from chief to issuing from sinister. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/08/11-08lar.html
May 2001 - X schnecke Y, Y schnecke X:
#73Leocadia de Bilbao. Name and device. Argent, issuant from base a schnecke azure. > This is clear of Almaith ingen Chormaic, Azure, a schnecke issuant from dexter base argent. A schnecke is a charge, so there is a CD for the change in the tincture of the field and another for the change in tincture of the primary charge. > http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2001/05/01-05lar.html
July 2005 - schnecke vs gurges:
The question was raised this month about what difference is granted between a schnecke and a gurges. Current precedent, set by Da'ud Laurel, grants a CD between the two, but not substantial (X.2) difference:
> There is clearly a CD between a schnecke and a gurges, but the consensus of the commentary and those attending the meeting [was] that RfS X.2 does not apply between them. [Peter Schneck, 5/96]
Unlike the gurges, the schnecke seems to have started its heraldic life as a field division. Walter Leonhard's "Grosse Buch der Wappenkunst," 1984, p.165, classes the schnecke// with other complex field divisions such as //Schraegflammenspaltung (Per pale rayonny)//. Some of his schnecke-like field divisions are similar to period armory found in Siebmacher's "Wappenbuch of 1605": v. the arms of Fridesheim (plate 37), von Ellershofen (plate 106) and die Megentzer (plate 119). Leonhard blazons them all as divisions of the field, e.g. //dreifacher Schneckenschnitt ("three-part Snail-cut")//. But the schnecke itself he blazons as a charge: //linke geschuppte Schnecke// ("//left-handed scaled Snail//," which we'd blazon a //schnecke invected reversed). This too is in Siebmacher, plate 198, as the arms of von Rordorf. This last example not only establishes the schnecke as a charge, but also lets us distinguish between the charge and the field: the invected line marks the charge. In SCA usage, the schnecke is always considered to be a charge.
The only thing the gurges and the schnecke have in common is a spiraling form. The schnecke never has more than a single revolution to its spiral: that is, if it issues from the chief, it circles the fess point of the shield once and comes to its point from chief. The gurges has at least four revolutions (if we take the concentric annular form as a baseline).
The research presented affirms the May 1996 precedent. Given their divergent evolutions and consistently differing emblazons, there is significant difference (a CD) between a gurges and a schnecke. However, there is not substantial (X.2) difference between the two. [2005 LoAR Cover Letter]
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Collected Precedents:
Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - [and SCHNEKE] The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - na The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - [Armory Precedents] The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - [Armory Precedents] The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - [Armory Precedents] The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - [HTML Document] The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) - the 1st part (Nov 1993 - June 1994) and the 2nd part (July 1994 - June 1996) The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - [precedents] The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) - the 1st year (June 1990 - June 1991) and the 2nd year (July 1991 - June 1992) The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - [Precedents] The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - [HTML Document] The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - [Precedents] The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - [Precedents] The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - [Precedents]
The Ordinary:
- Schnecke - see Gyron and Mollusk - Snail
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