Sea Creatures

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Illustrations:

Period:

===Sea-nettle:===
Libri
==Modern:==
===Pictorial Dictionary, 3rd edition:===
* [[1]]
* [Melusine]
* [[2]]
* [[3]]
* [[4]]
* [[5]]
* [[6]]

Vector Graphics:

• Viking Answer Lady - http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/Stars/Heraldry_SVG_Images/index.htm

Sea-horse naiant:

• Sea-horse

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SENA

Appendix L:

A Partial List of Postures and Orientations This is a list of postures and orientations that can be used to determine whether two charges or groups of charges conflict or whether there is a distinct change for posture/orientation. Animate Charges D. Fish: The postures listed within each group generally conflict, though a distinct change may be given for facing to dexter or to sinister.

• haurient, urinant
• naiant

F. Sea creatures and other Erect-Default Creatures: This category is for sea creatures and other creatures whose default is erect. The postures listed within each group generally conflict.

• erect

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A Heraldic Primer:

Sea Creatures and their postures - http://heraldry.sca.org/primer/fish.html (defunct, originally by Stephen Gold)

As we have discussed the birds of the air and the beasts of the field, the denizens of the ocean are also seen in armory. They range from the dolphin (a fish very different from Flipper) and the whale through various different fish used primarily for canting. Rounding out the aquatic cavalcade are lobsters, crabs, escallops, octopi [now to be blazoned as polypus/polypi as of March 2012 LoAR in order to use a more period term] and squid [to be blazoned as calamarie or cuttle-fish per the March 2012 LoAR].

A dolphin	A lucy (medieval name for pike)	A whale	A lobster

Just as beasts and birds have certain names for postures, most fish have specific names for postures, as outlined below.

Posture	Defining traits	stylised drawing	Example
Embowed	Curved body bending 'inward'
Embowed-counterembowed	'S' shaped curve to the body, Seen most often with dolphins. [Some treatises refer to this at torqued, torquend, torgant, or targant]
Haurient	Body in pale, head to chief [haurient for dolphins looks like embowed-counterembowed ?]
Naiant	Body in fess, head to dexter		File:Fishnaiant.gif
Urinant	Body in pale, head to base

Precedents:

Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[7]] Morsulus Heralds Website - [[8]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents) Restatement Wiki - [[9]] (restatements of Precedents) Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.

Definition:

September 2010 - sea nettle:

#46Luciana Pesce. Name and badge. (Fieldless) A sea-nettle gules. This is the defining instance of a sea-nettle// in Society armory. The sea-nettle is the creature usually termed a "jellyfish" in modern English. It has a round body with dangling, frond-like tentacles. Documentation was supplied from Gulielmi Rondeletii's //Libri de piscibus marinis: in quibus verae piscium, published in 1554, and matches the submitted charge. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2010/09/10-09lar.html

Registerability:

(Restricted, Reserved, SFPP, OOP)

Conflict:

May 2005 - tincture of mermaid tails:

#45Elise l'Éstrange. Name and device. Azure, a mermaid proper crined Or maintaining in her dexter hand a shamshir proper and in her sinister hand a gemstone gules, on a chief argent three crescents gules. This device does not conflict with Camilla de la Reynarde la Droitière, Azure, a blonde mermaid proper, tailed argent, maintaining in each hand a garden rose gules, on a chief argent, three foxes passant gules. There is a CD for changing the tincture of half the mermaid and another for substantially changing the type of the tertiaries under RfS X.4.j.ii. Our practice has been to ignore maintained charges when defining a device as simple armory for the purposes of this rule and RfS X.2. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2005/05/05-05lar.html

September 1992 - melusine vs mermaid:

Simona Zon d'Asolo. ...The device is also too close to Ellis (Papworth 983): Argent, a mermaid proper. There's no difference granted for melusine vs. mermaid. September 1992 LoAR

Identifiability:

September 1992 - "proper" on argent:

Simona Zon d'Asolo. The arms have insufficient contrast on the argent field. Human flesh "proper" was sometimes emblazoned as argent in period tomes; and in any case, carnation (pink) cannot be seen against white. (Technically, a melusine proper is considered neutral, and acceptable on argent; in practice, its contrast with an argent field is borderline. But the arms definitely violate Rule VIII.2.b.i.)... September 1992 LoAR

Collected Precedents:

Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - see fish The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - see fish The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - [Armory Precedents] The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - [Armory Precedents] The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - [Armory Precedents] The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - [HTML Document] The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) - the 1st part (Nov 1993 - June 1994) and the 2nd part (July 1994 - June 1996) The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - [precedents] The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) - the 1st year (June 1990 - June 1991) and the 2nd year (July 1991 - June 1992) The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - [Precedents] The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - [HTML Document] The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - [Precedents] The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - [Precedents] The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - [Precedents]

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