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==='''November 2011 - astrological symbol vs runes:'''===  
==='''November 2011 - astrological symbol vs runes:'''===  
Titus Atrius Magnus. Device. Sable, the astrological symbol for Leo within a bordure argent.
Titus Atrius Magnus. Device. Sable, the astrological symbol for Leo within a bordure argent.
We ---do not grant difference between abstract symbols''' per precedent: "Since the character is an abstract symbol, which we do not grant difference between..." [Matatias filius Lie Blunde, A-Æthelmearc, Mar 2009 LoAR] Therefore, this device is returned for conflict with the badge of Thorbjorn Thordarson, ''Sable, in fess two thorn runes within a bordure argent''. There is only one CD for the change of number of primary charges.
We do not grant difference between abstract symbols per precedent: "Since the character is an abstract symbol, which we do not grant difference between..." [Matatias filius Lie Blunde, A-Æthelmearc, Mar 2009 LoAR] Therefore, this device is returned for conflict with the badge of Thorbjorn Thordarson, ''Sable, in fess two thorn runes within a bordure argent''. There is only one CD for the change of number of primary charges.
This device also conflicts with the device of Beornwulf the Belligerent, ''Sable, a beorc rune within serpent involved head to base argent'', and with the badge of the Kingdom of Meridies, ''Sable, the Lombardic upper case letter M and in base a comet fesswise argent''. In both cases there is a CD for changing the type of the secondary charge, but nothing else.
This device also conflicts with the device of Beornwulf the Belligerent, ''Sable, a beorc rune within serpent involved head to base argent'', and with the badge of the Kingdom of Meridies, ''Sable, the Lombardic upper case letter M and in base a comet fesswise argent''. In both cases there is a CD for changing the type of the secondary charge, but nothing else.
This device is not in conflict with the device of Fearghas MacRob, ''Sable, a quaver argent''. There is one CD for adding the bordure and as '''quavers and other musical notes are considered symbols, but not abstract symbols''', there is another CD for change in type of primary charge.
This device is not in conflict with the device of Fearghas MacRob, ''Sable, a quaver argent''. There is one CD for adding the bordure and as quavers and other musical notes are considered symbols, but not abstract symbols, there is another CD for change in type of primary charge.
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