Editing The Lost

===From Pelican: No More SCA-Compatibility=== 
On the May 2008 Cover Letter, we ruled:
> Therefore, as of the May 2009 decisions meetings, we declare that no new name elements or name patterns will be ruled SCA-compatible, that all names previously ruled SCA-compatible are no longer SCA-compatible and that in order for them to be registered, documentation meeting the same standards as for non-SCA-compatible names will be required.
This ruling went into effect with this, the May 2009 Pelican meeting.
[[http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/05/09-05cl.html]]

'''WARNING: Do not cite this page as a reference. This page is on this wikispace only to make the content "searchable" and easier to find. If you find the information you seek here, go to the original sources to verify the information and use them for your documentation.'''


=Period Forms:= 
* Name - Summarize documentation as you would on a submission form - period spelling, type of name (eg. English feminine give name), date, source.


=Other Potential Sources:= 

* Laurel Name Articles - http:''heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/|http:''heraldry.sca.org/laurel/ ("no copy" source)
* On-line System for Commentary and Response (OSCAR) - https://oscar.sca.org/ (mine previous submissions, need copies)
* Morsulus LoAR/Precedent Searches - http://www.morsulus.org/ ("no copy")
* Name Pattern Search Form for registered items - http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_np.cgi


* Academy of St. Gabriel "Medieval Names Archive" - http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ (copies required)
* Archive of St. Gabriel reports - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/archive.cgi ("no copy")
* Academy of St. Gabriel "working" bibliography - http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-documents/biblio.html


* Database of Medieval Names ("index" of the St. Gabriel articles) - http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/database/alphalist.php
* Dictionary of Medieval Names from European Sources - http://dmnes.org/names
* IGI [[scaheraldry/Searches|Searches]] (aka Family Search) - https://familysearch.org/search/collection/igi (batches B, C, J, K, M (except M17 and M18), or P are acceptable)


* Omniglot On-line Encyclopedia of Writing Systems and Languages - http://www.omniglot.com/index.htm

=Precedents:= 
* Precedents of the SCA College of Arms - [[http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents.html]]
* Morsulus Heralds Website - [[http://www.morsulus.org/]] (to search the LoARs and Precedents)
* ''Use the above links to be sure any precedents listed below haven't been superseded by newer precedents.''

==Registerability:== 
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==Conflict:==
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==Collected Precedents:== 
* '''Compiled Names Precedents''' (current through May 2004, as of 10/2016) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/index.html


* 2nd Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (April 2011 - August 2011) - to be included in Compiled Names Precedents above
* 1st Tenure of Elisabeth de Rossignol (May 2005 - July 2008) - ditto
* The 2nd Tenure of François la Flamme (October 2004 - May 2005) - http:''heraldry.sca.org/goodbye.cgi?url=http:''www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/nameprec.html
* The Tenure of Shauna of Carrick Point (May 2004 - August 2004) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/shauna/name.html 
* The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004) - included in Compiled Names Precedents above
* The Tenure of Elsbeth Anne Roth (June 1999 - July 2001) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/elsbeth/name.html (included in above)
* The Tenure of Jaelle of Armida (June 1996 - June 1999) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/jaelleret.html (also in CNP above)
* The 2nd Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (November 1993 - June 1996) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud2/daud2ret.html (also in CNP above)
* The Tenure of Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme (June 1992 - October 1993) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/bruce/Bruceret.html (also in CNP above)
* The 1st Tenure of Da'ud ibn Auda (June 1990 - June 1992) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/daud/daud1ret.html (also in CNP above)
* The Tenure of Alisoun MacCoul of Elphane (September 1986 - June 1990) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/AlisounRet.html
* The Tenure of Baldwin of Erebor (August 1984 - August 1986) - http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/baldwinret.html
* The Tenure of Wilhelm von Schlüssel (August 1979 - August 1984) - in Compiled Names Precedents above
* The Tenure of Karina of the Far West (December 1975 - June 1979) - in Compiled Names Precedents above
* The Early Days (June 1971 - June 1975) - in Compiled Names Precedents above

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+===From Pelican: No More SCA-Compatibility===
+On the May 2008 Cover Letter, we ruled:
+> Therefore, as of the May 2009 decisions meetings, we declare that no new name elements or name patterns will be ruled SCA-compatible, that all names previously ruled SCA-compatible are no longer SCA-compatible and that in order for them to be registered, documentation meeting the same standards as for non-SCA-compatible names will be required.
+This ruling went into effect with this, the May 2009 Pelican meeting.
+[[http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/05/09-05cl.html]]
 '''WARNING: Do not cite this page as a reference. This page is on this wikispace only to make the content "searchable" and easier to find. If you find the information you seek here, go to the original sources to verify the information and use them for your documentation.'''
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 ==Registerability:==
-===From Pelican: No More SCA-Compatibility===
+===<month> <year>: summary===
-On the May 2008 Cover Letter, we ruled:
-> Therefore, as of the May 2009 decisions meetings, we declare that no new name elements or name patterns will be ruled SCA-compatible, that all names previously ruled SCA-compatible are no longer SCA-compatible and that in order for them to be registered, documentation meeting the same standards as for non-SCA-compatible names will be required.
-This ruling went into effect with this, the May 2009 Pelican meeting. [but see more recent discussion re: the Wanderer]
-[[http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/05/09-05cl.html]]
-=== Compiled Name Precedents: SCA-compatible===
-{| class="wikitable"
-|François la Flamme
-|2002.02
-|The English byname ''the Lost'' has been ruled SCA compatible. Use of an element which is only SCA compatible is a weirdness. ['''Ælfric the Lost''', [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2002/02/02-02lar.html 02/02], R-An Tir]
-|-
-|Elsbeth Anne Roth
-|2001.07
-|... we are reluctantly making the byname ''the Lost'' SCA compatible. ['''Jordan the Lost''', [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/2001/07/01-07lar.html 07/01], A-Calontir]
-|-
-|Elsbeth Anne Roth
-|1999.07
-|[''Corwynn the Lost''] Although names of the form ''X the Lost'' has been registered in the past, English bynames were not formed from adjectival past participles, and previous Laurels have been returning names for that reason. Da'ud ibn Auda, in the September, 1994 LoAR, wrote: "[Modifying 'the Brown-eyed'] English bynames were not formed from adjectival past participles. We have substituted the documented form." Given that the name already has a weirdness with the use of ''Corwynn'', which is undocumented but SCA compatible, we are not willing to give the byname the benefit of the doubt. The name must be returned barring documentation that such bynames were found. ['''Corwynn the Lost''', [http://sca.org/heraldry/loar/1999/07/lar.html 07/99], R-Atenveldt]
-|}
-http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/Compatible.html
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